After the Cumbria Shootings we must realise that a Second Amendment is needed in Britain or the repeal of the disasterous Firearms Amendment Act 1997.

If we had a government that wasn't interfering with our lawful right to bear arms a private citizen who was lawfully carrying a handgun could have put an end to this mad man and his killing spree in Cumbria before so many innocent lives were lost. Even a security guard or policeman who was armed could have done the same, but even if you had them present in this country chances are 99.999% of the time they are un-armed and there isn't a thing they can do until an armed response unit arrives, and by then its far, far too late. You can't even defend yourself now or prevent a mad man murdering as many innocents as possible.

No legislation rushed through on the back of public sentiment and emotion has ever worked.  The Firearms Amendment Act 1997 rushed through after Dunblane is such legislation. The ban on guns in Britain is flawed logic and only constrains the law abiding. Criminalising law abiding people and preventing them from the legal right to train, use and carry guns for their protection and defence, as well as that of others who can not defend themselves is wrong and it also goes against the constitution and common law of our land.

Surely a responsible government would do everything to reduce the number of innocent lives lost in these types of tragic mass-murder sprees? Even if that means allowing law-abiding people of this country to bear arms? If law abiding people today had that legal right then less people may have been murdered in Cumbria if any at all as a responsible citizen licensed and trained to carry a firearm could have taken out the bad guy before he murdered so many in cold blood.

An interesting article below on our gun laws in this country, and how a different approach is needed.

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For James Andre Smartt-Ford, 16, Michael Dosunmu, 15, and Billy Cox, 15, the hand-wringing by police and politicians over the escalation of gun crime comes a little late: all three have been shot dead in south London over the past 10 days.

Public revulsion over such criminality is, shamingly, blunted by the fact that they appear to be victims of ethnic gang crime. Society at large sees it as "their" problem, not its own. Such a view is criminally complacent.

We have, post-Dunblane, what are said to be the toughest gun control laws in the world. They have actually proved strikingly ineffectual.

Gun crime has doubled since they were introduced. Young hoodlums are able to acquire handguns – either replica weapons that have been converted, or imports from eastern Europe – with ease. With no dedicated frontier police, our borders remain hopelessly porous. The only people..

Full article:

Source: Telegraph Media Group Ltd

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One of the points I find the most powerful is in the comments section at the end from a British Ex-Pat living in the United States.

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In Colorado recently, an 18 year old man killed seven people in a shopping mall. He had a backpack stuffed with arms and ammunition as he walked in, intending to kill as many people as possible. He was killed by an off-duty policeman who was armed. How many people would have been killed if the policeman hadn't have been armed?

Here in Florida we have the right to carry a concealed weapon only after rigorous training and a background check. No shooting crimes have been committed by anyone with a Concealed Weapons Permit.

I feel safe in my house!

Posted by Vincent Jones, English ex-pat who used to be against guns.

For the rest of the comments follow the link I posted higher up.

Why is this idea important?

Is it not time that we were allowed to defend ourselves in this country as well? At least if you had the means to defend yourself you would have a fighting chance. At the moment if someone pulls a gun or knife on you, the only thing you can do is pray you have enough money in your wallet to pacify them.

Violent Crime went up and up and up under Labour government.  Labour failed in their primary responsibility as a government, which should have been the safety and security of the people, and to serve the people of this country. Lets hope the Liberal Conservacrats can do something about it. If that doesn't involve repealing the laws rushed through after Dunblane though it probably won’t work. The gun laws after Dunblane haven’t worked. They were ill thought out and rushed through on the back of public emotion and sentiment. They just prevent innocent people from being able to legally carry a gun with a license and full training to be able to defend themselves.

At a Pantera concert a few years back where four people were killed it would have been naive to believe if they banned guns that this would not happen. If guns were banned many more people would have been murdered at that concert as the security there wouldn't of been allowed guns to "take the killer out with".

In the last few years there have been tragic incidents at Schools and Shopping Malls etc in the US, many more people would have been murdered had it not been for private citizens, security guards and police whom were armed (thanks to the second amendment of the great constitution of the USA) and able to dispatch the crazed gun wielding killers.

In many US towns with high levels of gun ownership amongst private citizens there is virtually zero crime. You only get problems in bigger cities and places with more gun controls and regulations were it is mainly the criminal elements, gangs and drug dealers that have guns, with a lack of legal gun ownership amongst private citizens or a much lower level of ownership.

If you look at countries were guns have been banned in fairly recent times, violent crime has since soared out of all control and there have been many more incidents of this nature. This included Britain and Australia.

Some of the safest crime free communities in America where there have never been any gun crimes are areas where all the people living there legally own and carry a gun and are required to by the district after a certain age.

If you want to know what happens when a country takes away the right to bear arms of its citizens, take a look at China and more recently Zimbabwe. We could also be heading slowly in that direction.

If the state fails us the only thing we can do is defend ourselves. Greek philosopher Aristotle considered popular arms ownership the single most reliable indicator of whether a society was free.

The government needs to repeal the Firearms Amendment Act 1997 and to give the people of this country their own second amendment! The true law of our realm, the Common Law gives us the lawful right to bear arms. 

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