Repeal The Latest Gimmick In The Drugs War – Drug Driving Testing Kits To Be Issued To The Police.

It has just been announced that the government are to introduce drug driving test kits for traffic police. While I agree with the principle of not lawfully being allowed to drive whilst intoxicated with any substance, pharmaceutical or illicit, I cannot agree to the introduction of  this latest drugs war gimmick. It is simply not ethical or justifiable to issue police with drugs test kits without also utterly reforming drugs policy at the same time.

One of the myriad of complications regarding enforcement of positive tests is the fact that substances dissolve in the blood stream at different rates and, therefore, such policy would immediately discriminate against one specific population of drugs user. For example, I would like to know how they intend to prosecute somebody for driving on cannabis when cannabis takes up to 4 weeks to leave the blood system? This is unlike far more powerful substances like cocaine which dissolve in the blood stream within a few days and become undetectable thereafter. This means that this new introductory scheme would weigh heaviest against cannabis users and allow the real dangerous drug users to largely get away with drug driving.

Yet again the innocent cannabis user becomes the government scape goat, even though it has been proven that cannabis not only doesn't impair your driving ability but also, in most cases, it increases the drivers capacity for safe driving.

Repeal the introduction of these unworkable systems for further terrorising cannabis users until such time as you ALSO introduce drug policy reform and regulation. Thus ensuring that along with regulation comes a drug drive limit, just like there is with the far more impairing substance of alcohol. Note would also be taken of the dispersal rate of the drug in question before any arrest could be made. This would ensure that that the victimisation of the cannabis user was not an issue.
 

Why is this idea important?

It has just been announced that the government are to introduce drug driving test kits for traffic police. While I agree with the principle of not lawfully being allowed to drive whilst intoxicated with any substance, pharmaceutical or illicit, I cannot agree to the introduction of  this latest drugs war gimmick. It is simply not ethical or justifiable to issue police with drugs test kits without also utterly reforming drugs policy at the same time.

One of the myriad of complications regarding enforcement of positive tests is the fact that substances dissolve in the blood stream at different rates and, therefore, such policy would immediately discriminate against one specific population of drugs user. For example, I would like to know how they intend to prosecute somebody for driving on cannabis when cannabis takes up to 4 weeks to leave the blood system? This is unlike far more powerful substances like cocaine which dissolve in the blood stream within a few days and become undetectable thereafter. This means that this new introductory scheme would weigh heaviest against cannabis users and allow the real dangerous drug users to largely get away with drug driving.

Yet again the innocent cannabis user becomes the government scape goat, even though it has been proven that cannabis not only doesn't impair your driving ability but also, in most cases, it increases the drivers capacity for safe driving.

Repeal the introduction of these unworkable systems for further terrorising cannabis users until such time as you ALSO introduce drug policy reform and regulation. Thus ensuring that along with regulation comes a drug drive limit, just like there is with the far more impairing substance of alcohol. Note would also be taken of the dispersal rate of the drug in question before any arrest could be made. This would ensure that that the victimisation of the cannabis user was not an issue.
 

MSG To The Government – RE: The Public Are Aware That You Have Been Purposely Deceiving Us For 70 Years!

Dear Public Servants, the Government of The United Kingdom,

I write to inform you that we, the public of Great Britain, are growing ever more aware of the fact that successive governments have been purposely deceiving us regarding the prohibition of cannabis for approximately 70 years.

We are aware of the racist, unethical, immoral, unjust, unlawful and wholly discriminate propaganda that revolves around the entire issue of the state's attempt to hood-wink society. Almost every conceivable prejudice has been thrown at the issue, no matter how absurd, in an attempt for the state to protect the lie. Such illogical maintenance of the lie continues to this day and we, your electorate, are fully aware of your futile attempts to keep your necks above the waters of public knowledge. It is a dangerous situation to have the electorate over-take it's government in this manner.

The Internet is alive with overwhelming evidence to counter each and every one of the state's unsubstantiated claims against cannabis. Such evidence has also been provided by your electorate here on this website and under this topic. The "free" citizen is easily able to research evidence that will acknowledge that, indeed, they are trusting an untrustworthy government.

We, the people and your electorate, demand that you immediately cease lying to us and begin a process of reconciliation with your electorate so that we may once again be able to trust the people that we elect. We demand an apology and an admission of complicity in the corrupt deceit of society. We also demand an immediate repeal of cannabis prohibition and it's full legalisation.

An open lie cannot be upheld! The State has been found out! WE KNOW!!! Continuation of such deceit of the public in the face of overwhelming and publicly accessible evidence to the contrary will simply result in an ever diminishing respect, confidence and trust of the state by the electorate. The lie simply cannot be maintained.

Yours sincerely,

Rationalist.

Why is this idea important?

Dear Public Servants, the Government of The United Kingdom,

I write to inform you that we, the public of Great Britain, are growing ever more aware of the fact that successive governments have been purposely deceiving us regarding the prohibition of cannabis for approximately 70 years.

We are aware of the racist, unethical, immoral, unjust, unlawful and wholly discriminate propaganda that revolves around the entire issue of the state's attempt to hood-wink society. Almost every conceivable prejudice has been thrown at the issue, no matter how absurd, in an attempt for the state to protect the lie. Such illogical maintenance of the lie continues to this day and we, your electorate, are fully aware of your futile attempts to keep your necks above the waters of public knowledge. It is a dangerous situation to have the electorate over-take it's government in this manner.

The Internet is alive with overwhelming evidence to counter each and every one of the state's unsubstantiated claims against cannabis. Such evidence has also been provided by your electorate here on this website and under this topic. The "free" citizen is easily able to research evidence that will acknowledge that, indeed, they are trusting an untrustworthy government.

We, the people and your electorate, demand that you immediately cease lying to us and begin a process of reconciliation with your electorate so that we may once again be able to trust the people that we elect. We demand an apology and an admission of complicity in the corrupt deceit of society. We also demand an immediate repeal of cannabis prohibition and it's full legalisation.

An open lie cannot be upheld! The State has been found out! WE KNOW!!! Continuation of such deceit of the public in the face of overwhelming and publicly accessible evidence to the contrary will simply result in an ever diminishing respect, confidence and trust of the state by the electorate. The lie simply cannot be maintained.

Yours sincerely,

Rationalist.

Why our drug laws are not working

Drugs should be legalized, now, i know that's a very strong statement, however if you take into account the sheer scale of drug use in the uk, and the negative aspects associated with the prohibition of drugs, you quickly realise the positivity that can be extracted from the decriminalization of cannabis, and more understanding drug laws for harder drug use.

Now, consider this, if cannabis was legalized (perhaps along with MDMA pills & psilocybin mushrooms) the revenue that could be made in tax from the sale of cannabis is huge. 27% of the uk population regularly smoke cannabis, that means that 16,683,840 people in the uk use cannabis on a regular basis  and 14% of under 13 year olds have tried cannabis, you understand that the younger you are the more likely you are to begin using cannabis. Therefore it seems to me that children under 18 are using drugs as a form of rebellion, i know, i'm 16..

16,683,840 people use cannabis, if cannabis costs £10 per gram and each of them buy £70 (7 gram or quarter ounce) per week, and the government tax at 17.5% (V.A.T) that's £204,377,040 per week in tax, multiply that by 52 and you get a staggering £10,627,606,080 in tax per year, I won't go on in figures but imagine what David cameron could do with £10,627,606,080 per year?

If £10,627,606,080 a year COULD be going into public tax money, then consider that these people that use cannabis at the moment, are using it illegally, and if the criminals are making 100% profit, as legally it can't be coming from a taxable source, then that means that £60,729,177,600 per year is going into REAL criminals pockets every year, that's nearly 61 BILLION pounds sterling. This money could be going to fund terrorism, child trafficking, organised crime, murder and gun trafficking/production, no matter how much of a fool we may think David Cameron to be, don't you believe that this money should be going to him rather than the forementioned causes?

Now my personal opinion is that the money in tax (a considerably large sum) can be used to help ease the burden out of harder drug use and be used to make this country a place with less heroin and crack cocaine addicts, through legalization and controlled S.I.S (safe injection sites) the epidemic of heroin sweeping through the world may be doctored in the UK.

I shall now point out the fact that 9000 people a year in the UK die annualy from alcohol related illnesses, and the most common cause of death for 13-18 year olds in the UK is alcohol poisoning. Take that into consideration there is evidence to show that not one single person, in the history of cannabis use, has died from a THC overdose.

My father used to tell me as a child, that all things in life are good in moderation, perhaps i took this a little TOO literally, however i believe i could go as far as to say that it's become my motto, please take this into consideration when reading this.

The fact that also, cannabis has been shown to have very few derogatory side effects and there is NO proof that cannabis has been shown to cause schitzophrenia.

If drugs are controlled themselves then the abuse of drugs can be controlled and drugs, perhaps all drugs, can be enjoyed in a more safe, healthy manner.

Why is this idea important?

Drugs should be legalized, now, i know that's a very strong statement, however if you take into account the sheer scale of drug use in the uk, and the negative aspects associated with the prohibition of drugs, you quickly realise the positivity that can be extracted from the decriminalization of cannabis, and more understanding drug laws for harder drug use.

Now, consider this, if cannabis was legalized (perhaps along with MDMA pills & psilocybin mushrooms) the revenue that could be made in tax from the sale of cannabis is huge. 27% of the uk population regularly smoke cannabis, that means that 16,683,840 people in the uk use cannabis on a regular basis  and 14% of under 13 year olds have tried cannabis, you understand that the younger you are the more likely you are to begin using cannabis. Therefore it seems to me that children under 18 are using drugs as a form of rebellion, i know, i'm 16..

16,683,840 people use cannabis, if cannabis costs £10 per gram and each of them buy £70 (7 gram or quarter ounce) per week, and the government tax at 17.5% (V.A.T) that's £204,377,040 per week in tax, multiply that by 52 and you get a staggering £10,627,606,080 in tax per year, I won't go on in figures but imagine what David cameron could do with £10,627,606,080 per year?

If £10,627,606,080 a year COULD be going into public tax money, then consider that these people that use cannabis at the moment, are using it illegally, and if the criminals are making 100% profit, as legally it can't be coming from a taxable source, then that means that £60,729,177,600 per year is going into REAL criminals pockets every year, that's nearly 61 BILLION pounds sterling. This money could be going to fund terrorism, child trafficking, organised crime, murder and gun trafficking/production, no matter how much of a fool we may think David Cameron to be, don't you believe that this money should be going to him rather than the forementioned causes?

Now my personal opinion is that the money in tax (a considerably large sum) can be used to help ease the burden out of harder drug use and be used to make this country a place with less heroin and crack cocaine addicts, through legalization and controlled S.I.S (safe injection sites) the epidemic of heroin sweeping through the world may be doctored in the UK.

I shall now point out the fact that 9000 people a year in the UK die annualy from alcohol related illnesses, and the most common cause of death for 13-18 year olds in the UK is alcohol poisoning. Take that into consideration there is evidence to show that not one single person, in the history of cannabis use, has died from a THC overdose.

My father used to tell me as a child, that all things in life are good in moderation, perhaps i took this a little TOO literally, however i believe i could go as far as to say that it's become my motto, please take this into consideration when reading this.

The fact that also, cannabis has been shown to have very few derogatory side effects and there is NO proof that cannabis has been shown to cause schitzophrenia.

If drugs are controlled themselves then the abuse of drugs can be controlled and drugs, perhaps all drugs, can be enjoyed in a more safe, healthy manner.

Question for Mr. Clegg RE: Why am I a criminal?

A quick question to you Mr. Clegg to which I would appreciate a straight answer.

I am a hard working citizen who is also in adult education at the moment, studying hard for a Gas Safety qualification. I have never taken any form of welfare from the state as an adult and therefore have cost the state nothing. I am morally adept, ethically minded and a responsible adult. I care for those around me, I help other people wherever and whenever I can whether that's by lifting a heavy suit case down some stairs for a mother who was also trying to look after her child (my most recent good deed) or by any other means. I am an upstanding member of society, I have passed my first aid qualifications and I try to be as good a person as I can be. I actively contribute to the society that I am part of. I used to smoke cannabis regularly and still do on occasion. I am "T" total, I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke cigarettes and I don't indulge in any other drug habit. I speak well, am educated and well read. Lastly, I have never caused disruption of the peace, I have never been in a fight nor raised my hand against any other person.

Therefore, my question to you Mr. Clegg is: Please would you describe exactly why the state insists on criminalising me as well as millions like me and, furthermore, please explain in full the criminal act that I am accused of?

If you cannot justify my enduring criminalisation then perhaps you have just answered the question of the immorality of the Misuse of Drugs Act and also why it should be immediately repealed.

Why is this idea important?

A quick question to you Mr. Clegg to which I would appreciate a straight answer.

I am a hard working citizen who is also in adult education at the moment, studying hard for a Gas Safety qualification. I have never taken any form of welfare from the state as an adult and therefore have cost the state nothing. I am morally adept, ethically minded and a responsible adult. I care for those around me, I help other people wherever and whenever I can whether that's by lifting a heavy suit case down some stairs for a mother who was also trying to look after her child (my most recent good deed) or by any other means. I am an upstanding member of society, I have passed my first aid qualifications and I try to be as good a person as I can be. I actively contribute to the society that I am part of. I used to smoke cannabis regularly and still do on occasion. I am "T" total, I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke cigarettes and I don't indulge in any other drug habit. I speak well, am educated and well read. Lastly, I have never caused disruption of the peace, I have never been in a fight nor raised my hand against any other person.

Therefore, my question to you Mr. Clegg is: Please would you describe exactly why the state insists on criminalising me as well as millions like me and, furthermore, please explain in full the criminal act that I am accused of?

If you cannot justify my enduring criminalisation then perhaps you have just answered the question of the immorality of the Misuse of Drugs Act and also why it should be immediately repealed.

Legalise, Decriminalise & Tax Cannabis

The government should immediately restructure the laws surrounding the use of Cannabis.

The proposal is as such:

1. Legalise (completely) the usage of cannabis for medicinal purposes for those who have a current medical condition i.e Multiple Sclerosis.

2. Legalise possesion of Cannabis under 1 ounce and set a level at which it becomes intent to supply i.e. 2 ounces. Anything above this level would be either charged as a class C or B drug.

3. Issue vendor licenses like alcahol and tobacco and have the vendor pay a fee.

4. Tax the cannabis in the same manner as tobacco is.

5. Issue personal licenses to individuals which allows the growing of 5 or 6  plants at a time for personal consumption only and charge an annual fee. (disabled or medically certified persons would be exempt from this fee.)

Why is this idea important?

The government should immediately restructure the laws surrounding the use of Cannabis.

The proposal is as such:

1. Legalise (completely) the usage of cannabis for medicinal purposes for those who have a current medical condition i.e Multiple Sclerosis.

2. Legalise possesion of Cannabis under 1 ounce and set a level at which it becomes intent to supply i.e. 2 ounces. Anything above this level would be either charged as a class C or B drug.

3. Issue vendor licenses like alcahol and tobacco and have the vendor pay a fee.

4. Tax the cannabis in the same manner as tobacco is.

5. Issue personal licenses to individuals which allows the growing of 5 or 6  plants at a time for personal consumption only and charge an annual fee. (disabled or medically certified persons would be exempt from this fee.)

Cannabis Tag has been removed, yet again.

The Cannabis issue has received no less than 325 posts. That makes it one of the most popular single issues on this site, if not THE most popular on this site.

Excuses for it's constant appearing and disappearing range from magic to the Tag not getting clicked or posted enough.

After some consideration, I reject these explanations. It is simply not acceptable to try and dissolve an issue by removing it from the main index of Tags to the right of the forum. It is especially inappropriate to remove one of the single largest topics of debate on this website.  Even if it is somehow true that the tag has not been clicked on as much as others, it should still be reinstated as this issue is obviously of great concern to the public no matter what excuses are used to silence the issue.

Please mirror the public mood by reinstating the Cannabis Tag to it's rightful place.

Why is this idea important?

The Cannabis issue has received no less than 325 posts. That makes it one of the most popular single issues on this site, if not THE most popular on this site.

Excuses for it's constant appearing and disappearing range from magic to the Tag not getting clicked or posted enough.

After some consideration, I reject these explanations. It is simply not acceptable to try and dissolve an issue by removing it from the main index of Tags to the right of the forum. It is especially inappropriate to remove one of the single largest topics of debate on this website.  Even if it is somehow true that the tag has not been clicked on as much as others, it should still be reinstated as this issue is obviously of great concern to the public no matter what excuses are used to silence the issue.

Please mirror the public mood by reinstating the Cannabis Tag to it's rightful place.

Video’s in support of legalisation of cannabis and drugs.

The idea here is to give people easy access to some video's that are based in scientific fact and public opinion. Please view the video's in order to better acquaint yourself with the facts of the issue at hand:

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Why is this idea important?

The idea here is to give people easy access to some video's that are based in scientific fact and public opinion. Please view the video's in order to better acquaint yourself with the facts of the issue at hand:

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Repeal Imprisonment For Cultivation Of Cannabis

Currently the maximum prison term for cultivation of cannabis is 14 years. The maximum term fro Unregistered, illegal, gun ownership is 5 years.

Something is very wrong with our society.

Illegal guns kill people, growing cannabis doesn't. How on Earth is the law to  be taken seriously if it continues to employ such obviously unjust powers? How on Earth is it remotely justifiable to imprison someone guilty of a victimless crime for a greater term than those convicted of owning a weapon that has such terrible consequences for society?

Repeal the law that allows a prison term to be served by cannabis cultivation.

Why is this idea important?

Currently the maximum prison term for cultivation of cannabis is 14 years. The maximum term fro Unregistered, illegal, gun ownership is 5 years.

Something is very wrong with our society.

Illegal guns kill people, growing cannabis doesn't. How on Earth is the law to  be taken seriously if it continues to employ such obviously unjust powers? How on Earth is it remotely justifiable to imprison someone guilty of a victimless crime for a greater term than those convicted of owning a weapon that has such terrible consequences for society?

Repeal the law that allows a prison term to be served by cannabis cultivation.

Legalise Cannabis

The dutch system would work fine in the UK apart from that there the cannabis is still supplyed illegally. This is why I sugest full legalisation as it would remove the criminal element and create a fully taxable market.

 

Note/

Cannabis is less harmfull than alcohol and tobacco (two bigest killers in the uk, bigger than ALL illegal drugs combined) with 0 deaths in all its hystory of use. It has no overdose limit.

Also the link betwenn cannabis and schizophrenia is non existant. As cannabis use has rapidly increased, the cases of schizophreniahave remain the same (3%-4% of the population).

Why is this idea important?

The dutch system would work fine in the UK apart from that there the cannabis is still supplyed illegally. This is why I sugest full legalisation as it would remove the criminal element and create a fully taxable market.

 

Note/

Cannabis is less harmfull than alcohol and tobacco (two bigest killers in the uk, bigger than ALL illegal drugs combined) with 0 deaths in all its hystory of use. It has no overdose limit.

Also the link betwenn cannabis and schizophrenia is non existant. As cannabis use has rapidly increased, the cases of schizophreniahave remain the same (3%-4% of the population).

BBC News just quoted that 40% of NHS A&E is taken up by alcohol abusers. LEGALISE CANNABIS NOW!

So many adults are forced to drink as their only legal high and form of rest and relaxation. It’s so unethical and irresponsible a policy, just look at the BBC News statistic that states 40% of A&E is taken up by alcoholic issues. Legalise cannabis and free adult citizens to at least have a choice as to what drug they wish to relax with.

Why is this idea important?

So many adults are forced to drink as their only legal high and form of rest and relaxation. It’s so unethical and irresponsible a policy, just look at the BBC News statistic that states 40% of A&E is taken up by alcoholic issues. Legalise cannabis and free adult citizens to at least have a choice as to what drug they wish to relax with.

Far Fetched Idea With a Serious Point. RE: Nationwide Working Cannabis Users Strike.

My idea is to organise a mass strike of all working adult cannabis users. Now, before you all through this idea out, read on…

It would certainly highlight the problem and bring swift change to the law if everyone of the working population of 6 million adult cannabis users went on strike and refused to work until the issue was brought before the vote.

We would need to set up a charity where the more wealthy user can help support the less wealthy in the struggle with issues like rent payments and other life expenses. It wouldn't matter if you were fired from your position either because as soon as the law was changed the charity could help with the birth of a new industry offering employment and prospects to all whom joined the Union.

Ha, I know I'm dreaming but still, it would be awesome to achieve.

Why is this idea important?

My idea is to organise a mass strike of all working adult cannabis users. Now, before you all through this idea out, read on…

It would certainly highlight the problem and bring swift change to the law if everyone of the working population of 6 million adult cannabis users went on strike and refused to work until the issue was brought before the vote.

We would need to set up a charity where the more wealthy user can help support the less wealthy in the struggle with issues like rent payments and other life expenses. It wouldn't matter if you were fired from your position either because as soon as the law was changed the charity could help with the birth of a new industry offering employment and prospects to all whom joined the Union.

Ha, I know I'm dreaming but still, it would be awesome to achieve.

Pro or Anti Cannabis Leagalisation, All Should Watch, ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE A POLITICIAN

I'm putting this link here as it represents an informed opinion on the subject and details at length the history of prohibition, it's effects economically and in society, it's medicinal values and other extremely informative matters relating to the question, "should we legalise cannabis?".

If you are anti legalisation, then this video will inform you of the other side of the coin while still respecting your opinions and whether you agree with the video or not, you'll end up better qualified to speak about the subject.

If you're pro legalisation then this video is a real eye opener and makes it much easier to understand the fight that you really have on your hands and how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Enjoy before it's moderated on!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#

Why is this idea important?

I'm putting this link here as it represents an informed opinion on the subject and details at length the history of prohibition, it's effects economically and in society, it's medicinal values and other extremely informative matters relating to the question, "should we legalise cannabis?".

If you are anti legalisation, then this video will inform you of the other side of the coin while still respecting your opinions and whether you agree with the video or not, you'll end up better qualified to speak about the subject.

If you're pro legalisation then this video is a real eye opener and makes it much easier to understand the fight that you really have on your hands and how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Enjoy before it's moderated on!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#

Legalise all drugs or, at the very least, cannabis.

I believe, for the reasons set out below, that all drugs should be freely available to those who want them, even drugs such as heroin and crystal meth which are capable of causing immense damage to the user. However, I am willing to accept that not only is the legalisation of such drugs well nigh impossible under the current political climate, but that there are numerous valid arguments against such a step. However, there is one drug which these arguments simply do not apply to: cannabis.

Let us compare cannabis to alcohol. This comparison is a cliche I know, but one worth repeating because it seems to have made no impression even on many of those who accept it as such. Alcohol is highly addictive, causes long term and short term liver damage and is very easy to overdose on. Cannabis, by contrast, is not physically addictive (of course it can be psychologically addictive, but so can chocolate fingers and football) and it is literally impossible to overdose on as the lethal dose is so high. Of course it can, in large quantities over a number of years, cause lung cancer and paranoia, and worsen psychosis in those predisposed to it.

However, lest we consider that legalisation would cause a sudden upsurge in use, bringing a wave of paranoid cancerous psychotics in its wake, let us not forget that cannabis use is lower among the Dutch than among the British or Americans. This is because cannabis is a highly cultural drug – that is to say, a substantial proportion of young adults, of which I am one, choose to use it, and a substantial proportion choose not to. This is, as I say, a matter of choice. You would be hard pressed to find any young adult in the UK, apart from those living in remote areas, who wishes to use cannabis and is unable to. If you want cannabis in the UK, you can get it, and it has ever been thus.

All of the above may go some way towards persuading those of a 'nannying' bent that not only are we the People safe to be let loose with cannabis, we are also able to get hold of it anyway so all legalisation would do is cut off a source of funding for criminals. Now, however, we must consider the more important and generalised importance of drug legalisation, for as they stand, the drug laws are contemptuous of the individual's right to choose what she may do, harmful or no, to her own body.

Why is this idea important?

I believe, for the reasons set out below, that all drugs should be freely available to those who want them, even drugs such as heroin and crystal meth which are capable of causing immense damage to the user. However, I am willing to accept that not only is the legalisation of such drugs well nigh impossible under the current political climate, but that there are numerous valid arguments against such a step. However, there is one drug which these arguments simply do not apply to: cannabis.

Let us compare cannabis to alcohol. This comparison is a cliche I know, but one worth repeating because it seems to have made no impression even on many of those who accept it as such. Alcohol is highly addictive, causes long term and short term liver damage and is very easy to overdose on. Cannabis, by contrast, is not physically addictive (of course it can be psychologically addictive, but so can chocolate fingers and football) and it is literally impossible to overdose on as the lethal dose is so high. Of course it can, in large quantities over a number of years, cause lung cancer and paranoia, and worsen psychosis in those predisposed to it.

However, lest we consider that legalisation would cause a sudden upsurge in use, bringing a wave of paranoid cancerous psychotics in its wake, let us not forget that cannabis use is lower among the Dutch than among the British or Americans. This is because cannabis is a highly cultural drug – that is to say, a substantial proportion of young adults, of which I am one, choose to use it, and a substantial proportion choose not to. This is, as I say, a matter of choice. You would be hard pressed to find any young adult in the UK, apart from those living in remote areas, who wishes to use cannabis and is unable to. If you want cannabis in the UK, you can get it, and it has ever been thus.

All of the above may go some way towards persuading those of a 'nannying' bent that not only are we the People safe to be let loose with cannabis, we are also able to get hold of it anyway so all legalisation would do is cut off a source of funding for criminals. Now, however, we must consider the more important and generalised importance of drug legalisation, for as they stand, the drug laws are contemptuous of the individual's right to choose what she may do, harmful or no, to her own body.

Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons…

It seems the approach to drug law in the UK has traditionally been characterised by fear and hypocracy. Everyone loves a good old fashioned moral panic, it sells newspapers and gives people something to worry about (as if they don't have enough already), and that seems to be all we've had: moralising and panic.

When I worked for a major international broadcaster, their editorial guidlines surrounding drug references in popular music was a little tricky. Tricky because you shouldn't really mention the 'd' word, but the vast majority of popular music is either about drugs or has been written by someone who is taking them. Everybody's doing it but nobody's talking about it – and isn't that a pretty dangerous situtation?

In fact, isn't almost a complete no-brainer that what we need is a proper discourse based on reliable research? It would be, but for the fact that various members of government are so unwilling to take advice from the boys and girls in white coats, y'know, the actual scientists. How are we supposed to have confidence in politicians who not only don't listen to the people, but don't listen to the advice of people who are emminently more qualified to lead the debate.

Obviously decrimilasing drugs is never going to be a vote winner but in the long term might it not actually reduce crime? If the market – and there's no doubt that it is a booming market – is regulated by people who aren't off their faces on their own product, isn't that going to be much safer all round? We've tried just saying, 'we don't like drugs, please don't do it or we'll arrest you' for a good half a centuary now and it just hasn't worked; isn't it time we tried something new? It will undoubtedly be a difficult decision to take, but all the best ones are.

Oh, and another thing, you can't seriously tell me that not a single solitary member of parliament has ever taken drugs; it's just statistically massively unlikely. And what's all this business about one nice taxable drug being legal just because it always has been and other drugs being illegal even though they may in fact cause less harm? It's hazy thinking at best, even a dope fiend can see that…

Why is this idea important?

It seems the approach to drug law in the UK has traditionally been characterised by fear and hypocracy. Everyone loves a good old fashioned moral panic, it sells newspapers and gives people something to worry about (as if they don't have enough already), and that seems to be all we've had: moralising and panic.

When I worked for a major international broadcaster, their editorial guidlines surrounding drug references in popular music was a little tricky. Tricky because you shouldn't really mention the 'd' word, but the vast majority of popular music is either about drugs or has been written by someone who is taking them. Everybody's doing it but nobody's talking about it – and isn't that a pretty dangerous situtation?

In fact, isn't almost a complete no-brainer that what we need is a proper discourse based on reliable research? It would be, but for the fact that various members of government are so unwilling to take advice from the boys and girls in white coats, y'know, the actual scientists. How are we supposed to have confidence in politicians who not only don't listen to the people, but don't listen to the advice of people who are emminently more qualified to lead the debate.

Obviously decrimilasing drugs is never going to be a vote winner but in the long term might it not actually reduce crime? If the market – and there's no doubt that it is a booming market – is regulated by people who aren't off their faces on their own product, isn't that going to be much safer all round? We've tried just saying, 'we don't like drugs, please don't do it or we'll arrest you' for a good half a centuary now and it just hasn't worked; isn't it time we tried something new? It will undoubtedly be a difficult decision to take, but all the best ones are.

Oh, and another thing, you can't seriously tell me that not a single solitary member of parliament has ever taken drugs; it's just statistically massively unlikely. And what's all this business about one nice taxable drug being legal just because it always has been and other drugs being illegal even though they may in fact cause less harm? It's hazy thinking at best, even a dope fiend can see that…

Mathematical reasoning – RE: Cannabis Legalisation

133 posts in 5 days (site opened 01/07/2010) on the subject of the legalisation of cannabis of which 97% agree with the motion.

97% of 133 = 129.01. Therefore, we will assume a pro-lobby post total of 129.

129 (posts) / 5 (days) = 25.8 average (posts a day)

Average of 12 replies per post of which over 99% agree with the motion.

Therefore, 12 (users per topic posting replies) x 129 (original posts) = 1,548 (average pro -motion advocates) + 129 (Pro-motion original posters) = 1,677 Pro-motion users, average.

1,677 (Pro-motion users) / 5 (days) =  335 new pro-motion users a day, average.

335 (pro-motion users a day) x 365 (days a year) = 9,460 original pro-motion posts/ replies a year by mostly individuals numbering the same.

9,460 (posts / users per year) x 1,677 (pro-motion users) = 122,275 pro-motion users a year.

122,275 (annual pro-motion users) / 60,000,000 (UK population) = above 2 % of our national population! Of course, that's only annual average of those that visit this site to join the call for legalisation.

Taking the number of individuals who have bothered to post here into account and applying a reasonable average, one could assume that for each of the 122,275 annual pro-lobby posters here there will be 100 similar minded individuals who won't visit this site.

Therefore: 122,275 x 100 = 12,227,500 probable adult cannabis users or pro-lobbyist's in the UK. That's 20% of our national population.

Lets say that each user spends an average of £30.00 a week on supporting their habit, which currently goes to the black market.

£30 x 12,227,500 = £360,000,000.00 Annual revenue which could (should) be diverted towards growing British business and emboldening our dwindling economy in general.

Now, the good bit if you're a politician / law maker: Say tax on cannabis would be similar to that of alcoholic spirits. That's 17.5% VAT + 5.5% alcoholic spirit tax = 23%

23% of £360,000,000 =  £82,800,000 in annual tax revenue through usage alone without calculating other additional income such as tourism, GDP,entertainment and other particulars.

 

 

Why is this idea important?

133 posts in 5 days (site opened 01/07/2010) on the subject of the legalisation of cannabis of which 97% agree with the motion.

97% of 133 = 129.01. Therefore, we will assume a pro-lobby post total of 129.

129 (posts) / 5 (days) = 25.8 average (posts a day)

Average of 12 replies per post of which over 99% agree with the motion.

Therefore, 12 (users per topic posting replies) x 129 (original posts) = 1,548 (average pro -motion advocates) + 129 (Pro-motion original posters) = 1,677 Pro-motion users, average.

1,677 (Pro-motion users) / 5 (days) =  335 new pro-motion users a day, average.

335 (pro-motion users a day) x 365 (days a year) = 9,460 original pro-motion posts/ replies a year by mostly individuals numbering the same.

9,460 (posts / users per year) x 1,677 (pro-motion users) = 122,275 pro-motion users a year.

122,275 (annual pro-motion users) / 60,000,000 (UK population) = above 2 % of our national population! Of course, that's only annual average of those that visit this site to join the call for legalisation.

Taking the number of individuals who have bothered to post here into account and applying a reasonable average, one could assume that for each of the 122,275 annual pro-lobby posters here there will be 100 similar minded individuals who won't visit this site.

Therefore: 122,275 x 100 = 12,227,500 probable adult cannabis users or pro-lobbyist's in the UK. That's 20% of our national population.

Lets say that each user spends an average of £30.00 a week on supporting their habit, which currently goes to the black market.

£30 x 12,227,500 = £360,000,000.00 Annual revenue which could (should) be diverted towards growing British business and emboldening our dwindling economy in general.

Now, the good bit if you're a politician / law maker: Say tax on cannabis would be similar to that of alcoholic spirits. That's 17.5% VAT + 5.5% alcoholic spirit tax = 23%

23% of £360,000,000 =  £82,800,000 in annual tax revenue through usage alone without calculating other additional income such as tourism, GDP,entertainment and other particulars.

 

 

Balanced Approach to Drugs

All forms of cannabis and MDMA should be de-criminalised

HOWEVER:

a) Crack should remain illegal;

b) The amount of cannabis, MDMA or alcohol you take before getting behind the wheel of a car should be zero;

c) Where smoking bans exist they should be extended to encompass cannabis as well as nicotine;

d) Alcohol, cigarettes and the two newly-de-criminalised drugs should all have really high taxes levied on them.

Why is this idea important?

All forms of cannabis and MDMA should be de-criminalised

HOWEVER:

a) Crack should remain illegal;

b) The amount of cannabis, MDMA or alcohol you take before getting behind the wheel of a car should be zero;

c) Where smoking bans exist they should be extended to encompass cannabis as well as nicotine;

d) Alcohol, cigarettes and the two newly-de-criminalised drugs should all have really high taxes levied on them.