A small mistake during university time is punishing me for a life time. The amount of stress it has caused is really unexplainable . It would be a great help by government if they remove 1 time cautions atleast after 10years time , not to get any benefit but it really removes all the stress and gives peace of mind.
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A small mistake during university time is punishing me for a life time. The amount of stress it has caused is really unexplainable . It would be a great help by government if they remove 1 time cautions atleast after 10years time , not to get any benefit but it really removes all the stress and gives peace of mind.
Is The Law Requiring The Publication Of Cautions / Minor Offences When Applying For A Job Incompatible With Equal Opportunities Employment Law?
Is the government’s policy or UK law requiring the publication of any cautions for minor offences when applying for a job incompatible with equal opportunities employment law which makes it illegal for a prospective employer to discriminate based on race?
For example, if a UK citizen with a caution for a minor offense will show up on DBS check for up to 6 years when applying for certain jobs in the UK. A German citizen, with exactly the same minor offence, committed at the same time will only have to declare that offense for 3 years when applying for the same job as the UK citizen. After the first 3 years there is a 3 year period when the UK citizen would be discriminated against. The German doesn’t need to declare, indeed his/her record has been deleted, whereas the UK citizen would have to declare.
No matter how much the government insists companies should not discriminate on this, and be fair when assessing such situations, there is undoubtedly a human reaction to knowing a candidate has a criminal record which will affect many employment decisions.
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Is The Law Requiring The Publication Of Cautions / Minor Offences When Applying For A Job Incompatible With Equal Opportunities Employment Law?
Is the government’s policy or UK law requiring the publication of any cautions for minor offences when applying for a job incompatible with equal opportunities employment law which makes it illegal for a prospective employer to discriminate based on race?
For example, if a UK citizen with a caution for a minor offense will show up on DBS check for up to 6 years when applying for certain jobs in the UK. A German citizen, with exactly the same minor offence, committed at the same time will only have to declare that offense for 3 years when applying for the same job as the UK citizen. After the first 3 years there is a 3 year period when the UK citizen would be discriminated against. The German doesn’t need to declare, indeed his/her record has been deleted, whereas the UK citizen would have to declare.
No matter how much the government insists companies should not discriminate on this, and be fair when assessing such situations, there is undoubtedly a human reaction to knowing a candidate has a criminal record which will affect many employment decisions.
Dear All I was given a police caution for a very minor event which I cannot go into details for legal reasons. This has dramatically changed my life because although I have numerous degrees behind me it was all for nothing because it seems as if no one is interested in employing me. I am currently being treated by psychologists for depression and trauma.
However, there are many of us who were given or accepted a police caution for numerous reasons. This includes signing the form under pressure by a police officer, being given the wrong information such as the caution would be removed within a period of time (mainly 5years), or for fear of being kept in a cell for over a night. Whatever the reason may be, I am of the opinion that those who have received a police caution particular for minor offences should not be punished for the rest of their life. Though the police have the power to caution individuals, they are not judges and it is not certain that if you have gone ahead with court proceedings you would be convicted. I am sure that many of us now wished that we went ahead with court proceedings because in my case I was advised that CPS would not accept my case but now is too late. A CAUTION IS AS GOOD AS A CONVICTION. My only problem is I cannot live under this oppression of being labelled a criminal by employers and other members
of the public. I much prefer to get a prison life sentence than to live in this society being turned down jobs after jobs and having only one option of depending in benefits. As you may be aware the Protection of Freedoms Bill 2011-2012 maintains that adults with cautions will have their records kept indefinitely which is disproportionate. Therefore, I am asking those who have not got a chance to come before a judge to sign a caution Epetition at HM Government. Website is: Epetitions.direct.uk/petitions. 100.000 signatures are required for the government to consider the discussion in the parliament. Let us do something or lets us live in rejection, discrimination, and in misery for the rest of our lives for a minor mistake or choice that we have taken. Thanks
Why is this idea important?
Dear All I was given a police caution for a very minor event which I cannot go into details for legal reasons. This has dramatically changed my life because although I have numerous degrees behind me it was all for nothing because it seems as if no one is interested in employing me. I am currently being treated by psychologists for depression and trauma.
However, there are many of us who were given or accepted a police caution for numerous reasons. This includes signing the form under pressure by a police officer, being given the wrong information such as the caution would be removed within a period of time (mainly 5years), or for fear of being kept in a cell for over a night. Whatever the reason may be, I am of the opinion that those who have received a police caution particular for minor offences should not be punished for the rest of their life. Though the police have the power to caution individuals, they are not judges and it is not certain that if you have gone ahead with court proceedings you would be convicted. I am sure that many of us now wished that we went ahead with court proceedings because in my case I was advised that CPS would not accept my case but now is too late. A CAUTION IS AS GOOD AS A CONVICTION. My only problem is I cannot live under this oppression of being labelled a criminal by employers and other members
of the public. I much prefer to get a prison life sentence than to live in this society being turned down jobs after jobs and having only one option of depending in benefits. As you may be aware the Protection of Freedoms Bill 2011-2012 maintains that adults with cautions will have their records kept indefinitely which is disproportionate. Therefore, I am asking those who have not got a chance to come before a judge to sign a caution Epetition at HM Government. Website is: Epetitions.direct.uk/petitions. 100.000 signatures are required for the government to consider the discussion in the parliament. Let us do something or lets us live in rejection, discrimination, and in misery for the rest of our lives for a minor mistake or choice that we have taken. Thanks
Please remove old and trivial convictions from the CRB. I mean things like convictions for credit violations, juvenile theft, using bad cheques or minor deception. Why not give these people another chance in later life if their records have remained unchanged for, say, 10 years.
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Please remove old and trivial convictions from the CRB. I mean things like convictions for credit violations, juvenile theft, using bad cheques or minor deception. Why not give these people another chance in later life if their records have remained unchanged for, say, 10 years.
I thougth that CRB checks were to protect children from paedophiles. I know someone who had a caution for having a small amount of cannabis at a music festival as a 18 year old. This was a mistake, and he has learnt a hard lesson as he has been penalised for this in the jobs market even though he has gone onto get a Degree and does not have a drugs problem at all. Is it necessary for this and other minor cautions to go on record? The police should be able to use their discretion a bit more and give one off offences a 'ticking off' without it blighting their lives and ruining their chances. The majority of youths make a mistake and learn form it, they should not be criminalised.
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I thougth that CRB checks were to protect children from paedophiles. I know someone who had a caution for having a small amount of cannabis at a music festival as a 18 year old. This was a mistake, and he has learnt a hard lesson as he has been penalised for this in the jobs market even though he has gone onto get a Degree and does not have a drugs problem at all. Is it necessary for this and other minor cautions to go on record? The police should be able to use their discretion a bit more and give one off offences a 'ticking off' without it blighting their lives and ruining their chances. The majority of youths make a mistake and learn form it, they should not be criminalised.
The current system of an individual needing seperate CRB checks for various activities is a waste of money & builds in unnecessary beaurocracy & costs; particularly in the public sector. Examples are:
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A member of staff within the NHS who is changing roles (even within the same environment) is required to obtain a further CRB before being allowed to work unsupervised with the same patients she were working with previously.
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A hospital chaplain is required to have a seperate check for each environment he works in – I have heard of someone requiring 6 sepaerate checks.
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Someone CRB checked for their employment still needs a further check for any voluntary work. E.g a Nurse who then wants to help at Brownies or similar.
It would make sense for this document to be a personally held check that is transferable with perhaps an on line or telephone check to obtain an update from centrally held records from time to time.
Why is this idea important?
The current system of an individual needing seperate CRB checks for various activities is a waste of money & builds in unnecessary beaurocracy & costs; particularly in the public sector. Examples are:
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A member of staff within the NHS who is changing roles (even within the same environment) is required to obtain a further CRB before being allowed to work unsupervised with the same patients she were working with previously.
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A hospital chaplain is required to have a seperate check for each environment he works in – I have heard of someone requiring 6 sepaerate checks.
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Someone CRB checked for their employment still needs a further check for any voluntary work. E.g a Nurse who then wants to help at Brownies or similar.
It would make sense for this document to be a personally held check that is transferable with perhaps an on line or telephone check to obtain an update from centrally held records from time to time.
I think that we should stop criminalising people for the possession of small amounts of drugs for personal consumption and concentrate our efforts on tackling drug dealers and importers coupled with education to reduce the problem.
Giving people criminal records in their teens and early twenties does not act as a deterrent and simply makes it harder to get a job in the future making them more likely to feel hopeless and, guess what, take more drugs!
Maybe being sent for enforcable "rehab" but with no criminal record would be a good approach for people caught with small amounts?
Why is this idea important?
I think that we should stop criminalising people for the possession of small amounts of drugs for personal consumption and concentrate our efforts on tackling drug dealers and importers coupled with education to reduce the problem.
Giving people criminal records in their teens and early twenties does not act as a deterrent and simply makes it harder to get a job in the future making them more likely to feel hopeless and, guess what, take more drugs!
Maybe being sent for enforcable "rehab" but with no criminal record would be a good approach for people caught with small amounts?
To scrap enhanced CRB checks.
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To scrap enhanced CRB checks.