Reforming CRB checks

The current system of an individual needing seperate CRB checks for various activities is a waste of money & builds in unnecessary beaurocracy & costs; particularly in the public sector. Examples are:

  • A member of staff within the NHS who is changing roles (even within the same environment) is required to obtain a further CRB before being allowed to work unsupervised with the same patients she were working with previously.
  • A hospital chaplain is required to have a seperate check for each environment he works in  – I have heard of someone requiring 6 sepaerate checks.
  • Someone CRB checked for their employment still needs a further check for any voluntary work. E.g a Nurse who then wants to help at Brownies or similar.

It would make sense for this document to be a personally held check that is transferable with perhaps an on line or telephone check to obtain an update from centrally held records from time to time. 

Why is this idea important?

The current system of an individual needing seperate CRB checks for various activities is a waste of money & builds in unnecessary beaurocracy & costs; particularly in the public sector. Examples are:

  • A member of staff within the NHS who is changing roles (even within the same environment) is required to obtain a further CRB before being allowed to work unsupervised with the same patients she were working with previously.
  • A hospital chaplain is required to have a seperate check for each environment he works in  – I have heard of someone requiring 6 sepaerate checks.
  • Someone CRB checked for their employment still needs a further check for any voluntary work. E.g a Nurse who then wants to help at Brownies or similar.

It would make sense for this document to be a personally held check that is transferable with perhaps an on line or telephone check to obtain an update from centrally held records from time to time. 

To expunge the criminal record of those who have not re-offended for 25 years

Those with criminal records are penalised in seeking certain forms of employment by way of the record being kept for 70 years I believe. Other than those offences against the person, registered as a risk to vunerable adults and children and those who have breached or are considered likely to breach National Security after 25 years of non-offending, the Criminal Record of the individual should be completely expunged.

This will then enable them to seek a wider range of employment withour fear of disclosure, be able to travel to those areas of the World currently denied to them and most importantly, allow them to feel that their rehabilitation has been worthwhile and recognised by society.  

Why is this idea important?

Those with criminal records are penalised in seeking certain forms of employment by way of the record being kept for 70 years I believe. Other than those offences against the person, registered as a risk to vunerable adults and children and those who have breached or are considered likely to breach National Security after 25 years of non-offending, the Criminal Record of the individual should be completely expunged.

This will then enable them to seek a wider range of employment withour fear of disclosure, be able to travel to those areas of the World currently denied to them and most importantly, allow them to feel that their rehabilitation has been worthwhile and recognised by society.  

Reprimands and CRB

Remove inclusion of reprimands on CRB, my daughter was refused a place at University for taking a bag of sweets when a child she can’t get a job because she has to declare it on any healthcare job application.

Why is this idea important?

Remove inclusion of reprimands on CRB, my daughter was refused a place at University for taking a bag of sweets when a child she can’t get a job because she has to declare it on any healthcare job application.

Instead of CRB Checks, what about this?

The current system is overburdened and time consuming, with some Disclosures taking two, three or four months to come through.  Meanwhile the applicant is waiting to start work.   I would suggest that those people with offences that merit being included on a barred list have their National Insurance Number flagged and a simple electronic checking system be introduced on the HM Revenue and Customs site whereby employers within regulated activities can do an immediate electronic check during the earliest stage of recruitment.  

Why is this idea important?

The current system is overburdened and time consuming, with some Disclosures taking two, three or four months to come through.  Meanwhile the applicant is waiting to start work.   I would suggest that those people with offences that merit being included on a barred list have their National Insurance Number flagged and a simple electronic checking system be introduced on the HM Revenue and Customs site whereby employers within regulated activities can do an immediate electronic check during the earliest stage of recruitment.  

CRB Certificates to be transferrable

At present every person working or volunteering at an organisation in which they deal with children or vulnerable adults needs a CRB certificate through that organisation.  Therefore, somebody undertaking duties for different organisations needs multiple CRB certificates.  I have 5, I know people with even more.  This is time consuming and costly.  If CRB certificates were transferrable this pointless waste would be avoided.

Why is this idea important?

At present every person working or volunteering at an organisation in which they deal with children or vulnerable adults needs a CRB certificate through that organisation.  Therefore, somebody undertaking duties for different organisations needs multiple CRB certificates.  I have 5, I know people with even more.  This is time consuming and costly.  If CRB certificates were transferrable this pointless waste would be avoided.

Streamline the CRB check system

At present I have 9 different CRB checks in my name, as I work for a range of organisations working with young people.

Not one of those checks has found anything the other 8 have, yet each agency has been required to get one done before i can work

I don't need a different driving licence for each differenrt car I drive, or a different passport for each country, so why are the CRB check certificates not personal certification rather than required to be done by each business?

Why does the CRB website not also allow us to check CRB status of individuals if we had the numbers  and a name? this woulkd reduce the need for every school urrently to be recording this information and storing it…. somewhere

Why is this idea important?

At present I have 9 different CRB checks in my name, as I work for a range of organisations working with young people.

Not one of those checks has found anything the other 8 have, yet each agency has been required to get one done before i can work

I don't need a different driving licence for each differenrt car I drive, or a different passport for each country, so why are the CRB check certificates not personal certification rather than required to be done by each business?

Why does the CRB website not also allow us to check CRB status of individuals if we had the numbers  and a name? this woulkd reduce the need for every school urrently to be recording this information and storing it…. somewhere

Stop people needing multiple criminal records checks

Many people working with vulnerable groups, either as volunteers or paid members of staff, need to be vetted through a criminal records check. While this is entirely appropriate it is ridiculous that some people have four, five or even more checks done in the course of a year because they do work in a different area or department, even when with the same organisation.

Make the checks proportionate enough to ensure that one is enough, get rid of the extra red tape and costs involved and allow people the flexibility to move between posts or to volunteer efficiently and effectively.

there could even be a way to easily generate quarterly updates if the records checks were linked to the court systems, therby giving regular updates.

Why is this idea important?

Many people working with vulnerable groups, either as volunteers or paid members of staff, need to be vetted through a criminal records check. While this is entirely appropriate it is ridiculous that some people have four, five or even more checks done in the course of a year because they do work in a different area or department, even when with the same organisation.

Make the checks proportionate enough to ensure that one is enough, get rid of the extra red tape and costs involved and allow people the flexibility to move between posts or to volunteer efficiently and effectively.

there could even be a way to easily generate quarterly updates if the records checks were linked to the court systems, therby giving regular updates.

Repeal CRB – Part V of the Police Act 1997

The notion behind CRB checks may seem sensible, but in practice there is almost an presumption of guilt about the whole thing. One cna be ina  job and be requierd to repeaetdly prove one's innocence throughout one's tenure – it's unnecessary, embarassing, costly and intrusive for the majority of innocent people. How much money could be saved by the closure of the CRB quango?

Why is this idea important?

The notion behind CRB checks may seem sensible, but in practice there is almost an presumption of guilt about the whole thing. One cna be ina  job and be requierd to repeaetdly prove one's innocence throughout one's tenure – it's unnecessary, embarassing, costly and intrusive for the majority of innocent people. How much money could be saved by the closure of the CRB quango?

CRB check

Criminal records checks!

 

Im a nurse and each time i apply for a job i need to be CRB checked, and this is even if i am applying for a job with the same employer.

The check can take several weeks and holds up the process of starting the new job.

If i apply for two posts at the same time, each employer has to CRB check me in writing and each time it costs over 30 pounds.Sometimes i have to pay and sometimes the prospective employer

This process could be streamlined.It could be done on line with appropriate security clearance and i cant see why results couldnt be immediate

This process is far to time consuming, cumbersome and someone is making lots of money

 

Tony

 

 

Why is this idea important?

Criminal records checks!

 

Im a nurse and each time i apply for a job i need to be CRB checked, and this is even if i am applying for a job with the same employer.

The check can take several weeks and holds up the process of starting the new job.

If i apply for two posts at the same time, each employer has to CRB check me in writing and each time it costs over 30 pounds.Sometimes i have to pay and sometimes the prospective employer

This process could be streamlined.It could be done on line with appropriate security clearance and i cant see why results couldnt be immediate

This process is far to time consuming, cumbersome and someone is making lots of money

 

Tony

 

 

CRB checks should be portable.

Why do individual health trusts and councils need me to get a new police check every time I switch jobs? 

In one 2 year period I had to have 4!

Why can't they be portable, and need renewing instead?

Why is this idea important?

Why do individual health trusts and councils need me to get a new police check every time I switch jobs? 

In one 2 year period I had to have 4!

Why can't they be portable, and need renewing instead?

Change CRB Regulations Slightly

Allow a single CRB check to apply to several organisations.

At the moment if you are involved with a club or activity involving children you have to apply for a CRB check for each organisation. If you help at (say) Scouts or Guides and are also helping at a kids football, rugby or swimming club you need a separate CRB check for each organisation – even though the information checked is the same and the activities (in the context of contact with children) are similar.

If you had a named list of common organisation types (say – Scouting, Registered Sports Clubs, Schools, Theatres etc) you could have a single CRB check which would be valid for similar activities in all of them. This would save a huge amount of time and money – for the taxpayer, the individual, and the organisations involved.

 

Those organisations or activities that don't fit into these categories could continue with CRB as it is now.

Why is this idea important?

Allow a single CRB check to apply to several organisations.

At the moment if you are involved with a club or activity involving children you have to apply for a CRB check for each organisation. If you help at (say) Scouts or Guides and are also helping at a kids football, rugby or swimming club you need a separate CRB check for each organisation – even though the information checked is the same and the activities (in the context of contact with children) are similar.

If you had a named list of common organisation types (say – Scouting, Registered Sports Clubs, Schools, Theatres etc) you could have a single CRB check which would be valid for similar activities in all of them. This would save a huge amount of time and money – for the taxpayer, the individual, and the organisations involved.

 

Those organisations or activities that don't fit into these categories could continue with CRB as it is now.

CRB

Remove the use of CRB checks for parents that help out on school trips etc. Keep them for parents that will have lone contact with children where a teacher is not present, eg running an after school club or helping with one on one reading. Not for a day trips, PTA events etc where there is a crowd of people and it would be impossible for anything to happen.

Why is this idea important?

Remove the use of CRB checks for parents that help out on school trips etc. Keep them for parents that will have lone contact with children where a teacher is not present, eg running an after school club or helping with one on one reading. Not for a day trips, PTA events etc where there is a crowd of people and it would be impossible for anything to happen.

The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 – Amend

Amend or repeal this act so that warnings and cautions which are spent or more than 5 years old do not appear on any CRB Checks.  As these types of offences are not criminal records and can effect a persons employment oppotunities. 

For example a troubled teenage may get a caution and then turn their life around and never offend again. Then when applying for a job encounter difficulties when a CRB may be done.

 

Why is this idea important?

Amend or repeal this act so that warnings and cautions which are spent or more than 5 years old do not appear on any CRB Checks.  As these types of offences are not criminal records and can effect a persons employment oppotunities. 

For example a troubled teenage may get a caution and then turn their life around and never offend again. Then when applying for a job encounter difficulties when a CRB may be done.

 

CRB Checks for those working with young people

Youth organisations.  Examples, Sea, Army  and Air Cadets Scouts etc.  Where a young person joins a cadet or other youth organisation at age 13 to 15 years and they go on to stay in that organisation until they are 18 (in the Air training Corps – or the Air Cadets members can stay until they are 20 years or age), they have to complete a CRB Form and apply for clearance.  The instructors in those organisations know the members pretty well over the years of their membership and can will have a good idea as to the trustworthiness.  Why do these youngsters have to have CRB Clearance at that stage of their continuous service with the organisation?  It is such a waste of money.  Also the clearance can take upto three months.  Do sixth formers in schools who are around younger children complete CRB Forms when they turn 18?  No!  So why do cadets when in the same situation?

Why is this idea important?

Youth organisations.  Examples, Sea, Army  and Air Cadets Scouts etc.  Where a young person joins a cadet or other youth organisation at age 13 to 15 years and they go on to stay in that organisation until they are 18 (in the Air training Corps – or the Air Cadets members can stay until they are 20 years or age), they have to complete a CRB Form and apply for clearance.  The instructors in those organisations know the members pretty well over the years of their membership and can will have a good idea as to the trustworthiness.  Why do these youngsters have to have CRB Clearance at that stage of their continuous service with the organisation?  It is such a waste of money.  Also the clearance can take upto three months.  Do sixth formers in schools who are around younger children complete CRB Forms when they turn 18?  No!  So why do cadets when in the same situation?

Criminal record for small amounts of drugs

I think that we should stop criminalising people for the possession of small amounts of drugs for personal consumption and concentrate our efforts on tackling drug dealers and importers coupled with education to reduce the problem.

Giving people criminal records in their teens and early twenties does not act as a deterrent and simply makes it harder to get a job in the future making them more likely to feel hopeless and, guess what, take more drugs!

Maybe being sent for enforcable "rehab" but with no criminal record would be a good approach for people caught with small amounts?

Why is this idea important?

I think that we should stop criminalising people for the possession of small amounts of drugs for personal consumption and concentrate our efforts on tackling drug dealers and importers coupled with education to reduce the problem.

Giving people criminal records in their teens and early twenties does not act as a deterrent and simply makes it harder to get a job in the future making them more likely to feel hopeless and, guess what, take more drugs!

Maybe being sent for enforcable "rehab" but with no criminal record would be a good approach for people caught with small amounts?