Companies Act – Unnecessary Forms

The Companies Act 2006 has created a significant number of new forms, many of which appear to have little purpose. For example, Form CC04 – Statement of company's objects. Other than the company's number and name , this form has just a choice of three tick boxes to complete: 'addition to', 'removal of' and 'alteration to'.

Under the 1985 Companies Act it was only necessary to submit a special resolution and the new or revised memorandum and articles. This still has to be done under the 2006 Companies Act, but this pointless form also has to completed and filed. According to the notes on the form the amendment to the objects of the company is not effective until entry of the form on the Register.

The form cannot be filed using the Companies House WebFiling service. It can only be filled in on-line for printing. It cannot be saved or emailed. It still has to be signed on behalf of the company and sent in paper form to Companies House.

All these new forms should be reviewed to see if they are really necessary, and those that are not should be abolished, to cut down on needless red tape.

Why is this idea important?

The Companies Act 2006 has created a significant number of new forms, many of which appear to have little purpose. For example, Form CC04 – Statement of company's objects. Other than the company's number and name , this form has just a choice of three tick boxes to complete: 'addition to', 'removal of' and 'alteration to'.

Under the 1985 Companies Act it was only necessary to submit a special resolution and the new or revised memorandum and articles. This still has to be done under the 2006 Companies Act, but this pointless form also has to completed and filed. According to the notes on the form the amendment to the objects of the company is not effective until entry of the form on the Register.

The form cannot be filed using the Companies House WebFiling service. It can only be filled in on-line for printing. It cannot be saved or emailed. It still has to be signed on behalf of the company and sent in paper form to Companies House.

All these new forms should be reviewed to see if they are really necessary, and those that are not should be abolished, to cut down on needless red tape.

Cease making Housing Associations ask for ‘profiling information’

All housing associations are expected to ask very personal questions of their tenants. Top of the list of really contentious questions are 'Sexuality' or 'Transexual'.

Why is this idea important?

All housing associations are expected to ask very personal questions of their tenants. Top of the list of really contentious questions are 'Sexuality' or 'Transexual'.

Freedom of movement

We should be allowed to go across borders without being subjected to immigration control within the EU. Many countries in Europe have signed up to this and can move around freely. I believe we should have the same rights, as we already pay for membership, so we should get this benefit. It is especially needed for those people who spend their time traveling back and forth.

Why is this idea important?

We should be allowed to go across borders without being subjected to immigration control within the EU. Many countries in Europe have signed up to this and can move around freely. I believe we should have the same rights, as we already pay for membership, so we should get this benefit. It is especially needed for those people who spend their time traveling back and forth.

Tree Preservation Order

Under the Tree Preservation Order system, private landlowners are unable to lop or remove trees without permission of their local council.

Where such trees are causing damage to a building and the council refuse you have to lodge an appeal. This is costly and often includes submission of tree surgeon and surveyor opinions.

The grounds and scope under which the appeals are granted are very narrow and if your appeal is not granted the only remedy is to appleal to the High Court or to seek injunctive relief. This is unaffordable for most people.

The result is that the Council maintain a lot of power, the system is skewed in their favour. The system needs to be drastically remedied to bring about a fairer more equitable system.

Why is this idea important?

Under the Tree Preservation Order system, private landlowners are unable to lop or remove trees without permission of their local council.

Where such trees are causing damage to a building and the council refuse you have to lodge an appeal. This is costly and often includes submission of tree surgeon and surveyor opinions.

The grounds and scope under which the appeals are granted are very narrow and if your appeal is not granted the only remedy is to appleal to the High Court or to seek injunctive relief. This is unaffordable for most people.

The result is that the Council maintain a lot of power, the system is skewed in their favour. The system needs to be drastically remedied to bring about a fairer more equitable system.

Notice Of Intended Prosecution (NIP)

Just by not telling somone that "they will be reported for the question to be concidered of……" has led to dangerous drivers being alowed to keep on driving and the police and courts wasting time and money, lots of money. If somone is charged at a police station with a driving offence,  then it should be obvious that the standard of their driving was going to be 'concidered'. If they get a ticket on the road, again it should be obvious that the police will investigate the offence.

Why is this idea important?

Just by not telling somone that "they will be reported for the question to be concidered of……" has led to dangerous drivers being alowed to keep on driving and the police and courts wasting time and money, lots of money. If somone is charged at a police station with a driving offence,  then it should be obvious that the standard of their driving was going to be 'concidered'. If they get a ticket on the road, again it should be obvious that the police will investigate the offence.

Make Council Expectations and Re-cycling schemes simpler and better

Currently local councils seem to have different regulations concerning their recycling schemes and some do not make reasonable allowance in their systms for missorted items. Mine (rochford) seems to prefer  writing slightly different guidance notes, and sending letters to the small percentage of people who have missorted an item.

People coming to stay, holidaymakers from different boroughs and children mean that sorting will never  be 100%.

One set of recyciling regulations across the UK rather than one for each borough.

Why is this idea important?

Currently local councils seem to have different regulations concerning their recycling schemes and some do not make reasonable allowance in their systms for missorted items. Mine (rochford) seems to prefer  writing slightly different guidance notes, and sending letters to the small percentage of people who have missorted an item.

People coming to stay, holidaymakers from different boroughs and children mean that sorting will never  be 100%.

One set of recyciling regulations across the UK rather than one for each borough.

Benevolent Trusts – charity

There is a book on benevolent and trusts funds where people can ask for assistance re funding ie school clothes from the police etc.

People have left money down the centuries but some of trusts are now very obscure or only have a very small fund.

Some of these could usefully be wound up or lumped together into one trust fund.

Why is this idea important?

There is a book on benevolent and trusts funds where people can ask for assistance re funding ie school clothes from the police etc.

People have left money down the centuries but some of trusts are now very obscure or only have a very small fund.

Some of these could usefully be wound up or lumped together into one trust fund.

Traditional Community Activities

Create a classification of community activity which is exempt from stupid health and safety or insurance requirements. Just be clear that people who attend are responsible for their own safety and attend at their own risk, barring common sense precautions like having St Johns present

Why is this idea important?

Create a classification of community activity which is exempt from stupid health and safety or insurance requirements. Just be clear that people who attend are responsible for their own safety and attend at their own risk, barring common sense precautions like having St Johns present

Make sure MPs have read legislation before voting on it

Too often MPs appear to vote based on the title of the bill, or based on party policy, without ever reading the bill itself.

If MPs had to read the bill (and have their scores published on a quick quiz on it!) it would keep the bills shorter and simpler, and avoid hidden stings in the tail (little bits of unrelated legislation hidden in the small print).

Why is this idea important?

Too often MPs appear to vote based on the title of the bill, or based on party policy, without ever reading the bill itself.

If MPs had to read the bill (and have their scores published on a quick quiz on it!) it would keep the bills shorter and simpler, and avoid hidden stings in the tail (little bits of unrelated legislation hidden in the small print).

CRB checks, why do I need more than one?

I work for the NHS and in my spare time I coach Rugby in the Winter and Cricket in the Summer and have to have three sererate CRB checks.  Surely this can be simplified so that I only need one.  Apart from the time and expense of maintaining these checks, how many bureaucrats does it take to administer this nightmare?

Why is this idea important?

I work for the NHS and in my spare time I coach Rugby in the Winter and Cricket in the Summer and have to have three sererate CRB checks.  Surely this can be simplified so that I only need one.  Apart from the time and expense of maintaining these checks, how many bureaucrats does it take to administer this nightmare?

Reduce Planning Bureaucracy

We need to make serious reductions to the amount of paperwork that needs to be done in order to speed up and streamline the planning system.

I'm a year or so from graduating as an architect and have already studied planning. I've worked in both fields and the amount of paperwork needed just to get planning permission is incredible. The previous government, despite making some positive changes, have made it harder and more expensive to get planning and build.

Public sector planners have been allowed to request an ever increasing range of documents and reports from developers – tree surveys, bat surveys, traffic impact assessments, environmental impact assessments, design and access statements, statements of community consultation etc etc, all of which can cost thousands upon thousands from specialist consultants. In some cases, these are necessary, however all too often planners aren't sure of whether they are needed so will request anything vaguely applicable to cover their own backs, with no understanding of the costs and time delays involved.

In short: make planners justify all aditional documentation that they request.

Why is this idea important?

We need to make serious reductions to the amount of paperwork that needs to be done in order to speed up and streamline the planning system.

I'm a year or so from graduating as an architect and have already studied planning. I've worked in both fields and the amount of paperwork needed just to get planning permission is incredible. The previous government, despite making some positive changes, have made it harder and more expensive to get planning and build.

Public sector planners have been allowed to request an ever increasing range of documents and reports from developers – tree surveys, bat surveys, traffic impact assessments, environmental impact assessments, design and access statements, statements of community consultation etc etc, all of which can cost thousands upon thousands from specialist consultants. In some cases, these are necessary, however all too often planners aren't sure of whether they are needed so will request anything vaguely applicable to cover their own backs, with no understanding of the costs and time delays involved.

In short: make planners justify all aditional documentation that they request.

Remove the Sunday trading act 1994

I feel that the Sunday Trading Act 1994 should be removed. Majopr retailers should not be allowed to trade at all on a Sunday. This will help re-install family values, it will encouarge people to spend time toghther as families. By all shops being restricted to this law it would ensre fairness. Small business would still be able to suceed in the marktet place, and big business can reduce some costs. The good that this would do our country is almost impossible to measure.

Why is this idea important?

I feel that the Sunday Trading Act 1994 should be removed. Majopr retailers should not be allowed to trade at all on a Sunday. This will help re-install family values, it will encouarge people to spend time toghther as families. By all shops being restricted to this law it would ensre fairness. Small business would still be able to suceed in the marktet place, and big business can reduce some costs. The good that this would do our country is almost impossible to measure.

Get rid of Council Tax Benefit bureaucracy.

There are thousands of bureaucrats in this country whose jobs include dealing with Council Tax Benefit claims. There is a mountain of excessively complicated regulation covering how these claims are to be dealt with. Vast sums of money and considerable manpower resources are lavished each year on assessing people's claims.

The main task for the bureaucrats is to assess people's incomes to see how much "benefit" they are entitled to. (Council Tax Benefit is not really a benefit anyway – it is just a reduction in the amount of Council Tax you have to pay.)

They don't just make a calculation for each year – they make a calculation for every week! If you are self-employed, the council may even insist upon seeing every receipt for your business, down to the last stamp and the last paperclip! I'm not kidding – this actually happens!

A single claim can sometimes involve literally reams of paper and hundreds of man-hours from both the council and the claimant. And if there is any change in circumstances, the council may insist on repeating the entire process. In many cases, the cost of administering the claim greatly exceeds the amount being claimed.

And yet, nearly all of this bureaucracy is totally unnecessary. The vast majority of people claiming Council Tax Benefit will already have had their incomes assessed for the purpose of claiming tax credits. So why not just use the same figures to assess Council Tax Benefit?

Why is this idea important?

There are thousands of bureaucrats in this country whose jobs include dealing with Council Tax Benefit claims. There is a mountain of excessively complicated regulation covering how these claims are to be dealt with. Vast sums of money and considerable manpower resources are lavished each year on assessing people's claims.

The main task for the bureaucrats is to assess people's incomes to see how much "benefit" they are entitled to. (Council Tax Benefit is not really a benefit anyway – it is just a reduction in the amount of Council Tax you have to pay.)

They don't just make a calculation for each year – they make a calculation for every week! If you are self-employed, the council may even insist upon seeing every receipt for your business, down to the last stamp and the last paperclip! I'm not kidding – this actually happens!

A single claim can sometimes involve literally reams of paper and hundreds of man-hours from both the council and the claimant. And if there is any change in circumstances, the council may insist on repeating the entire process. In many cases, the cost of administering the claim greatly exceeds the amount being claimed.

And yet, nearly all of this bureaucracy is totally unnecessary. The vast majority of people claiming Council Tax Benefit will already have had their incomes assessed for the purpose of claiming tax credits. So why not just use the same figures to assess Council Tax Benefit?

Trust the teachers – let them teach properly

The vast majority of teachers are qualified, motivated and knowledgable individuals who know their subjects and their pupils or students, as a group, better than anyone else. They should be allowed to teach the way which delivers the subject knowledge, in their educated opinion, the best way for each individual or group. They cannot do this when bogged down by an ever-increasing burden of paperwork, which takes away from their contact time with their class or group. Trust the teachers to do the job properly, and give them the time and freedom so to do. Less paperwork, fewer targets and decreased inspection will result in a better education for the country's children and students.

Why is this idea important?

The vast majority of teachers are qualified, motivated and knowledgable individuals who know their subjects and their pupils or students, as a group, better than anyone else. They should be allowed to teach the way which delivers the subject knowledge, in their educated opinion, the best way for each individual or group. They cannot do this when bogged down by an ever-increasing burden of paperwork, which takes away from their contact time with their class or group. Trust the teachers to do the job properly, and give them the time and freedom so to do. Less paperwork, fewer targets and decreased inspection will result in a better education for the country's children and students.

Planning regs for HMO are impossibly overcomplicated!

I have a 2 bed flat, and 3 students want to rent it. What should be a simple matter of letting a property has become a nightmare of completing Full Planning Application forms, with plans and maps and surveys and god knows what else – mostly highly specialised questions regarding the property – and for what?

Just so I can let 3 students share a flat???

This regulation is badly worded if it lumps in my utterly harmless situation with scenarios of 20 people crammed into unhealthy accommodation.

Badly worded and ill-considered – ah that's right, it was a Stutory Instrument, so it wasn't considered AT ALL.

Why is this idea important?

I have a 2 bed flat, and 3 students want to rent it. What should be a simple matter of letting a property has become a nightmare of completing Full Planning Application forms, with plans and maps and surveys and god knows what else – mostly highly specialised questions regarding the property – and for what?

Just so I can let 3 students share a flat???

This regulation is badly worded if it lumps in my utterly harmless situation with scenarios of 20 people crammed into unhealthy accommodation.

Badly worded and ill-considered – ah that's right, it was a Stutory Instrument, so it wasn't considered AT ALL.

Simplify the tax system and harmonise it with benefits

1. The tax system is now unfit for its purpose of raising revenue fairly and efficiently.  The code has double in size and complexity in the last 13 years.

2. It is so unwieldly that it is impossible to harmonise with the benefits and welfare system (although Frank Field MP is trying to do so).

3. The way forward is to strip down to essentials, remove the loopholes for special interest groups, and make a bonfire of the exceptions and perks.

4. We need to raise the same revenue (about 40% of GDP) more equitably,with 4 basic taxes, with virtually flat rates:

A. Income tax . To start at £12,000, and be in two bands of 20 and 40%, the top band starting at £50,000. Everyone to pay it (including non-doms). To apply to world wide earnings.

B. Capital Gains and Business Tax; First £12,000 to be tax free, then all gains taxed at 20%.  This includes multinationals like BP, HSBC, and Berkshire Hathaway. To apply to world-wide earnings.

C. Sales Tax (VAT); to be at 20 or 22%, on all goods and services except food. (Alcohol and tobacco to be at higher rates, as now).

D. Property (land) tax, to include all 'real property', such as farmland, houses, and  estates, whether held in the UK or abroad. To be levied on the actual value, at 1 % annually. To apply to businesses too.

 

We can remove taxes on inheritance, local property rates, business rates, 'special levies', luxury taxes, and hundreds more.

 

Once the tax system is simplified, social benefits (state pensions, child benefit, unemployment help) can be structured accordingly.

 

 

Why is this idea important?

1. The tax system is now unfit for its purpose of raising revenue fairly and efficiently.  The code has double in size and complexity in the last 13 years.

2. It is so unwieldly that it is impossible to harmonise with the benefits and welfare system (although Frank Field MP is trying to do so).

3. The way forward is to strip down to essentials, remove the loopholes for special interest groups, and make a bonfire of the exceptions and perks.

4. We need to raise the same revenue (about 40% of GDP) more equitably,with 4 basic taxes, with virtually flat rates:

A. Income tax . To start at £12,000, and be in two bands of 20 and 40%, the top band starting at £50,000. Everyone to pay it (including non-doms). To apply to world wide earnings.

B. Capital Gains and Business Tax; First £12,000 to be tax free, then all gains taxed at 20%.  This includes multinationals like BP, HSBC, and Berkshire Hathaway. To apply to world-wide earnings.

C. Sales Tax (VAT); to be at 20 or 22%, on all goods and services except food. (Alcohol and tobacco to be at higher rates, as now).

D. Property (land) tax, to include all 'real property', such as farmland, houses, and  estates, whether held in the UK or abroad. To be levied on the actual value, at 1 % annually. To apply to businesses too.

 

We can remove taxes on inheritance, local property rates, business rates, 'special levies', luxury taxes, and hundreds more.

 

Once the tax system is simplified, social benefits (state pensions, child benefit, unemployment help) can be structured accordingly.

 

 

Produce a codified constitution which enshrines our rights and liberties.

We are one of only 4 remaining countries in the world which do not have a codified constitution. (Including San Marino, New Zealand and Israel)

A codified constitution is a single document, containing the rights of every individual person, enshrined in law and transcending statute law, making it very difficult for a government to remove our civil liberties and allowing us to live with a clearer knowledge of our exact rights. This document would provide the limits of the government on what it can and cant do to us and help prevent the abuse of laws.

This would enable us in the future to challenge any laws which may infringe upon our civil liberties as they contravene an article of the constitution, meaning our rights would be clear, outlined and they could not be taken away from us in the blink of an eye.

Currently our constitution is uncodified, meaning in order to find out what your rights are, you need to look up previous test cases, there are no real core values or documents containing clear and consise details of the rights of the people in this country, the powers of the government or any iron-clad document with which to challenge controversial laws or with which to strengthen existing ones.

Why is this idea important?

We are one of only 4 remaining countries in the world which do not have a codified constitution. (Including San Marino, New Zealand and Israel)

A codified constitution is a single document, containing the rights of every individual person, enshrined in law and transcending statute law, making it very difficult for a government to remove our civil liberties and allowing us to live with a clearer knowledge of our exact rights. This document would provide the limits of the government on what it can and cant do to us and help prevent the abuse of laws.

This would enable us in the future to challenge any laws which may infringe upon our civil liberties as they contravene an article of the constitution, meaning our rights would be clear, outlined and they could not be taken away from us in the blink of an eye.

Currently our constitution is uncodified, meaning in order to find out what your rights are, you need to look up previous test cases, there are no real core values or documents containing clear and consise details of the rights of the people in this country, the powers of the government or any iron-clad document with which to challenge controversial laws or with which to strengthen existing ones.

Abolish the paper “counterpart” driving licence

Photocard driving licences also have a "counterpart" paper licence which must be produced ialong with the photocard when production of a driving licence is required. This is silly and wasteful. If we must (as the EU say we must) have a photocard licence let that be the only document required.

Why is this idea important?

Photocard driving licences also have a "counterpart" paper licence which must be produced ialong with the photocard when production of a driving licence is required. This is silly and wasteful. If we must (as the EU say we must) have a photocard licence let that be the only document required.

Legal Services Act 2007

Repeal the Legal Services Act 2007. This act limits rights of audience before tribunals and courts to a select few in elite clubs such as the Bar Council and the Law Society.

Many ordinary people cannot afford high legal fees and would like to take advantage of lay representation and chariy based advocacy services.

Judges are wll able to control advocates behaviour in their courtrooms and can easily kick out those wo are not assisting their client and the Court..

The Solicitor's Law Society is past its sell by date.

Why is this idea important?

Repeal the Legal Services Act 2007. This act limits rights of audience before tribunals and courts to a select few in elite clubs such as the Bar Council and the Law Society.

Many ordinary people cannot afford high legal fees and would like to take advantage of lay representation and chariy based advocacy services.

Judges are wll able to control advocates behaviour in their courtrooms and can easily kick out those wo are not assisting their client and the Court..

The Solicitor's Law Society is past its sell by date.

Simplify & Tweak the Data Protection Act

The Data Protection act needs tweaking / simplifying because various organisation in the public & private sector seem to be using it as an excuse to make things more difficult than they need to be, such as:

– Updating / Cancelling / Changing a service (e.g. Broadband package, etc) on behalf of a disabled or elderly relative who can't do so themselves because of physical or pyschological reasons (e.g. can't use the phone because they're deaf and still can't hear via their hearing aid… or like me have speech difficulties), with the numpty in the call centre insisting they can only deal with the person the call is being made on behalf of. In some cases these could be a simple 5-10minute job via a secure internet connection if only the organisation in question would provide it but don't citing the Data Protection act as an excuse.

 

– Arranging to repay government benefits on behalf of a disabled or elderly relative, such as recently when the benefits agency decided they'd over-paid my Grandma (who'll be 95 later this month) while she'd been stuck in hospital for several weeks and my Dad was trying to organise repaying it (seeing as she's deaf), only for it to be made more complicated (with, yet again, the Data Protection act used as an excuse).

Why is this idea important?

The Data Protection act needs tweaking / simplifying because various organisation in the public & private sector seem to be using it as an excuse to make things more difficult than they need to be, such as:

– Updating / Cancelling / Changing a service (e.g. Broadband package, etc) on behalf of a disabled or elderly relative who can't do so themselves because of physical or pyschological reasons (e.g. can't use the phone because they're deaf and still can't hear via their hearing aid… or like me have speech difficulties), with the numpty in the call centre insisting they can only deal with the person the call is being made on behalf of. In some cases these could be a simple 5-10minute job via a secure internet connection if only the organisation in question would provide it but don't citing the Data Protection act as an excuse.

 

– Arranging to repay government benefits on behalf of a disabled or elderly relative, such as recently when the benefits agency decided they'd over-paid my Grandma (who'll be 95 later this month) while she'd been stuck in hospital for several weeks and my Dad was trying to organise repaying it (seeing as she's deaf), only for it to be made more complicated (with, yet again, the Data Protection act used as an excuse).

stop state interference in education and allow experts to make policy

At present every new government brings in changes to the educcation system with little evidence to say why. the cost is massive and non of the ideas every get a proper grounding or allowed to be embeded.

At present the Dfe has many policy makers who have little or no knowledge of education. The professionals should be the ones making policy and direction for the good of a child, not minsters or policy makers seeing it as another rung on the professional ladder to get to another department.

Bank of england runs finacial matters, with experts in post. Education should be the same!

Why is this idea important?

At present every new government brings in changes to the educcation system with little evidence to say why. the cost is massive and non of the ideas every get a proper grounding or allowed to be embeded.

At present the Dfe has many policy makers who have little or no knowledge of education. The professionals should be the ones making policy and direction for the good of a child, not minsters or policy makers seeing it as another rung on the professional ladder to get to another department.

Bank of england runs finacial matters, with experts in post. Education should be the same!

Scrap The Early Years Foundation Stage curriculum and targets.

The DOE Website states that the Early Years Foundation Stage is the:

Resource providing the statutory framework for setting the standards for learning, development and care for children from 0–5 years. The framework aims at laying a secure foundation for future learning through learning and development that is planned around the individual needs and interests of the child. Also aims at improving quality and consistency in the early years sector through a universal set of standards.

Translation: have an incredibly prescriptive curriculum for babies and toddlers! And make nursery workers waste their time monitoring and recording targets. My daughter got a 20 page report tracking her progress. Every time a worker went off to fill in her progress record, was time that was NOT spent interacting or playing with her.

Why is this idea important?

The DOE Website states that the Early Years Foundation Stage is the:

Resource providing the statutory framework for setting the standards for learning, development and care for children from 0–5 years. The framework aims at laying a secure foundation for future learning through learning and development that is planned around the individual needs and interests of the child. Also aims at improving quality and consistency in the early years sector through a universal set of standards.

Translation: have an incredibly prescriptive curriculum for babies and toddlers! And make nursery workers waste their time monitoring and recording targets. My daughter got a 20 page report tracking her progress. Every time a worker went off to fill in her progress record, was time that was NOT spent interacting or playing with her.

Disclosure of interests

Whenever a bill is introduced into Parliament a full and comprehensive disclosure to be made of all contacts with lobbyists and interested parties by the proposer, and if a government bill by all civil servants.  Severe penalties to apply if any failure to disclose emerges.

Why is this idea important?

Whenever a bill is introduced into Parliament a full and comprehensive disclosure to be made of all contacts with lobbyists and interested parties by the proposer, and if a government bill by all civil servants.  Severe penalties to apply if any failure to disclose emerges.

Repeal laws that say a school caretaker can’t go up a ladder over a certain height!! etc etc

There are many health and safety laws which are absolutely ludicrous, including the restrictions put on school caretakers re ladders – how else can we get our lights moved in the hall for a drama production???!  etc etc.

Please have a look at these safety laws for us in schools!  (And probably elsewhere…)

Why is this idea important?

There are many health and safety laws which are absolutely ludicrous, including the restrictions put on school caretakers re ladders – how else can we get our lights moved in the hall for a drama production???!  etc etc.

Please have a look at these safety laws for us in schools!  (And probably elsewhere…)