Ban Group Tenancies for Properties with Over 4 People

I believe a ban should be placed on group tenancies for properties with over 4 people.

 

The idea is given birth from a situation I experienced as a student renting for the first time at university. In order to find accommodation at a reasonable price and in time for the following year, myself and three friends rented a 10 person house with a few unknowns and another group that we were briefly acquainted with.

Much to our surprise when it came time to signing the tenancy contract (by now it was too late to find alternate accommodation) we realised that the contract was worded for a single tenant and that simply by placing the names of all tenants on this one contract, we became treated as a single entity by law. We confirmed that this was common practise so thought nothing of it.

Later I left university during the middle of the year. Following my contractual agreement continuing to pay rent for the entire year and I paid off any outstanding and statutory bills out of good will to other housemates.

It turned out that a housemate had failed to pay rent and bills for many months and that several thousands of pounds were now being asked for from the other tenants, including myself, by the estate agent that managed the property.

Why is this idea important?

I believe a ban should be placed on group tenancies for properties with over 4 people.

 

The idea is given birth from a situation I experienced as a student renting for the first time at university. In order to find accommodation at a reasonable price and in time for the following year, myself and three friends rented a 10 person house with a few unknowns and another group that we were briefly acquainted with.

Much to our surprise when it came time to signing the tenancy contract (by now it was too late to find alternate accommodation) we realised that the contract was worded for a single tenant and that simply by placing the names of all tenants on this one contract, we became treated as a single entity by law. We confirmed that this was common practise so thought nothing of it.

Later I left university during the middle of the year. Following my contractual agreement continuing to pay rent for the entire year and I paid off any outstanding and statutory bills out of good will to other housemates.

It turned out that a housemate had failed to pay rent and bills for many months and that several thousands of pounds were now being asked for from the other tenants, including myself, by the estate agent that managed the property.

Student Letting Planning Permission order 2010

If I buy a property for my Student Son or Daughter  to use while the are in University, I must obtain Planning Permission if they take on 3 non familly members to share the property and costs.

With this new order I must undertake a costly and lengthly proceedure to get planning permission before my son or daughter can house their 3 friends next term. 

Why is this idea important?

If I buy a property for my Student Son or Daughter  to use while the are in University, I must obtain Planning Permission if they take on 3 non familly members to share the property and costs.

With this new order I must undertake a costly and lengthly proceedure to get planning permission before my son or daughter can house their 3 friends next term. 

Allow as many people as they want to share a dwelling without planning consent or license

Stop the HMO interference by Local Government. So long as the ordinary rules governiing housing are followed allow people to occupy dwellings as they see fit. If four or five people wish to share, let them without the need of planning consent, licesing and stigma. The rules are daft as they rely upon defining the relationship of the tenants. Is a Morman man with three wives, a single houehold or three households? If the wives work and contribute to the overall cost, are they paying ren? If one tenant pays the rent and the others contribute, are they separate households.  Is any group of people to be defined by sleeping arrangements for the purpose of licensing?

The law is truly aweful. It has had to be revised time after time to say remove section 257 buildings (older converted blocks of flats) and other groups. Councils seem to have avendeta against those who wish to share.

The aim is laudible: improve housing standards, but this is not the way to do it.

There is great demand for bedsit type of accommodation. It should not be stigmatised.

Why is this idea important?

Stop the HMO interference by Local Government. So long as the ordinary rules governiing housing are followed allow people to occupy dwellings as they see fit. If four or five people wish to share, let them without the need of planning consent, licesing and stigma. The rules are daft as they rely upon defining the relationship of the tenants. Is a Morman man with three wives, a single houehold or three households? If the wives work and contribute to the overall cost, are they paying ren? If one tenant pays the rent and the others contribute, are they separate households.  Is any group of people to be defined by sleeping arrangements for the purpose of licensing?

The law is truly aweful. It has had to be revised time after time to say remove section 257 buildings (older converted blocks of flats) and other groups. Councils seem to have avendeta against those who wish to share.

The aim is laudible: improve housing standards, but this is not the way to do it.

There is great demand for bedsit type of accommodation. It should not be stigmatised.

Allow several people to share a dwelling without permission

Stop the legal requirement to notify and in some cases licence or even apply for planning consent to allow three or more unrelated people to rent and share a dwelling. Housing Act of 2004 and revisions and instruments in 2006 2007 2008… A bad law aimed at doing what the law already provides for but in an unintrusive way.

I am referring to the current preoccupation with "HMO"s

If a local authority is paying the rent, then they have a right to check value for money but otherwise they should butt out! Tenaants can go to trading standards about bad landlords if there is a need. Why spend council tax money and interfere with civil liberties of prospective sharers and landlords.

Why is this idea important?

Stop the legal requirement to notify and in some cases licence or even apply for planning consent to allow three or more unrelated people to rent and share a dwelling. Housing Act of 2004 and revisions and instruments in 2006 2007 2008… A bad law aimed at doing what the law already provides for but in an unintrusive way.

I am referring to the current preoccupation with "HMO"s

If a local authority is paying the rent, then they have a right to check value for money but otherwise they should butt out! Tenaants can go to trading standards about bad landlords if there is a need. Why spend council tax money and interfere with civil liberties of prospective sharers and landlords.

Land Tax

First of all I would like to thank Nick Clegg for this opportunity to have some useful input directly into government policy. My personal circumstances are that my current landlord has given me 60 days notice to leave my private let (via a letting agent) house because he needs to sell in order to repay certain debts he has acquired in the current economic climate.

The area I live in there simply isn’t any housing available to let privately, and those that are coming onto the market are well above my finical means. I earn too much for the local council to help me. I need to be homeless for a minimum of 30 days before the council can offer any help.

There are plenty of empty houses in the area I drive past dozens on my way to work so who knows how many more there are in the side roads. These are of course investment properties whereby the owners are waiting for the property market to recover before they restore, develop, or just redecorate to sell on for a profit.

This is a situation that simply does not exist in Germany. The German government charges a ‘Land Tax’ on all property. With residential properties the residents pay the land tax as part of their council tax.

Often in some city areas the land tax is higher that the council tax thus encouraging property owners to have tenants occupying their properties as much as possible.

Why is this idea important?

First of all I would like to thank Nick Clegg for this opportunity to have some useful input directly into government policy. My personal circumstances are that my current landlord has given me 60 days notice to leave my private let (via a letting agent) house because he needs to sell in order to repay certain debts he has acquired in the current economic climate.

The area I live in there simply isn’t any housing available to let privately, and those that are coming onto the market are well above my finical means. I earn too much for the local council to help me. I need to be homeless for a minimum of 30 days before the council can offer any help.

There are plenty of empty houses in the area I drive past dozens on my way to work so who knows how many more there are in the side roads. These are of course investment properties whereby the owners are waiting for the property market to recover before they restore, develop, or just redecorate to sell on for a profit.

This is a situation that simply does not exist in Germany. The German government charges a ‘Land Tax’ on all property. With residential properties the residents pay the land tax as part of their council tax.

Often in some city areas the land tax is higher that the council tax thus encouraging property owners to have tenants occupying their properties as much as possible.

Renting

If a minimum term is required it should not exceed six months from when the tenant first moves in with no further minimum terms allowed.  Tenants could reasonably be charged a penalty of, say, two month’s rent if they leave within six months.

A non-student sharing a house or flat with students should be charged council tax only on his share of the dwelling, not on the entire dwelling.

 

Why is this idea important?

If a minimum term is required it should not exceed six months from when the tenant first moves in with no further minimum terms allowed.  Tenants could reasonably be charged a penalty of, say, two month’s rent if they leave within six months.

A non-student sharing a house or flat with students should be charged council tax only on his share of the dwelling, not on the entire dwelling.

 

Reform HMO legislation

The 2004 Housing Act introduced a requirement that houses of 3 or more stories occupied by 5 or more people (other than a single household) should conform to expensive planning requirements eg installation of fire doors throughout, fire-resistant ceilings, etc. There is no evidence that this has achieved any benefit whatsoever.

A 2010 statutory instrument extended these to houses newly in multiple occupation by as few as 3 people. Fortunately the Coalition has announced a review of this latter legislation: however a better approach would be to scrap the regulations altogether.

Why is this idea important?

The 2004 Housing Act introduced a requirement that houses of 3 or more stories occupied by 5 or more people (other than a single household) should conform to expensive planning requirements eg installation of fire doors throughout, fire-resistant ceilings, etc. There is no evidence that this has achieved any benefit whatsoever.

A 2010 statutory instrument extended these to houses newly in multiple occupation by as few as 3 people. Fortunately the Coalition has announced a review of this latter legislation: however a better approach would be to scrap the regulations altogether.