Speed Limits

Abolish them all, accept that some people are better able to drive carefully at whatever speed than others, the only time when people need to get points on their licence is when their driving could be argued to constitute a risk to other road users.

Why is this idea important?

Abolish them all, accept that some people are better able to drive carefully at whatever speed than others, the only time when people need to get points on their licence is when their driving could be argued to constitute a risk to other road users.

Reset the Motorspeed limits.

At present we a have a national speed limit at 70mph from the 1960's this should be repealed and set with something more inline with the 21st century not the swinging 60's. I'm not suggesting increase it to 120mph but something more upto date. There should be a minimum limit across all three lanes lane ?mph lane 2?mph lane 3 from 70mph to something more realistic most vehicles today are equipped with multiple airbags,abs,crumpole zones,pedestrian friendly body panels and other technology most cars now have 5star Ncap safety records the Germans have autobahns i'm not saying we need go down that route but please Mr Clegg bring us into lione with the 21st century not keeping us in the Victorian era..

Why is this idea important?

At present we a have a national speed limit at 70mph from the 1960's this should be repealed and set with something more inline with the 21st century not the swinging 60's. I'm not suggesting increase it to 120mph but something more upto date. There should be a minimum limit across all three lanes lane ?mph lane 2?mph lane 3 from 70mph to something more realistic most vehicles today are equipped with multiple airbags,abs,crumpole zones,pedestrian friendly body panels and other technology most cars now have 5star Ncap safety records the Germans have autobahns i'm not saying we need go down that route but please Mr Clegg bring us into lione with the 21st century not keeping us in the Victorian era..

Replace default 60mph limit by 50mph

In Derbyshire almost all major roads now have 50mph limits. So each road has 50mph repeater signs along its length. Why not make the default speed limit 50mph (currently 60mph) but allow and sign 60 or even 70mph on suiatble roads.

Why is this idea important?

In Derbyshire almost all major roads now have 50mph limits. So each road has 50mph repeater signs along its length. Why not make the default speed limit 50mph (currently 60mph) but allow and sign 60 or even 70mph on suiatble roads.

Modify 20mph Limits Near Schools To When Appropriate

Most existing 20mph limits are permanent 24/7/365. Not that many chidren attend school e.g at 2.00 am or on Christmas Day.

A few miles from here is a 40mph limit near a school. There are orange flashing lights which are switched on during approriate times. The lights have a notice on their pole which says that the speed limit is reduced to 20mph when the lights are lit. All such limits should be of this type.

Why is this idea important?

Most existing 20mph limits are permanent 24/7/365. Not that many chidren attend school e.g at 2.00 am or on Christmas Day.

A few miles from here is a 40mph limit near a school. There are orange flashing lights which are switched on during approriate times. The lights have a notice on their pole which says that the speed limit is reduced to 20mph when the lights are lit. All such limits should be of this type.

Speed limits

Get rid of the 70 mph limit (at least increase to 90) on limited access roads but keep the consequences of exceeding 100 – instant license suspension.  The 70 limit was set when the capabilities of cars was far inferior than today (braking performance, crash protection) and needs to be brought in line with modern technology.

Why is this idea important?

Get rid of the 70 mph limit (at least increase to 90) on limited access roads but keep the consequences of exceeding 100 – instant license suspension.  The 70 limit was set when the capabilities of cars was far inferior than today (braking performance, crash protection) and needs to be brought in line with modern technology.

Review speeding laws.

Make motorways unrestricted as they are in Germany. Remove speed cameras. Raise limits in certain places such as urban dual carriageways. 

Speed limits by themselves have a very marginal effect on road safety. The true safety factors are the quality of attention of the driver, ie; looking before pulling out onto the carriageway, keeping a proper distance, noticing vehicles turning right.

German Motorways have a comparable safety record to our own taking into account traffic density.  Breaking speed limits are a 'factor' in only 4% of accidents, acccording to reasearch including the Department of Transports own publications.

Given the responibility back to the driver, the vast majority will travel at a speed they are comfortable at, and drive safely. The minority that dont can be dealt with by conventional policing, under care and attention or recklessnes criteria.

Why is this idea important?

Make motorways unrestricted as they are in Germany. Remove speed cameras. Raise limits in certain places such as urban dual carriageways. 

Speed limits by themselves have a very marginal effect on road safety. The true safety factors are the quality of attention of the driver, ie; looking before pulling out onto the carriageway, keeping a proper distance, noticing vehicles turning right.

German Motorways have a comparable safety record to our own taking into account traffic density.  Breaking speed limits are a 'factor' in only 4% of accidents, acccording to reasearch including the Department of Transports own publications.

Given the responibility back to the driver, the vast majority will travel at a speed they are comfortable at, and drive safely. The minority that dont can be dealt with by conventional policing, under care and attention or recklessnes criteria.

Increase LGV Speeds on A Roads

Repeal the law which limits large goods vehicles to 40 MPH on A Roads.

This law is very impractical, causes congestion, is actually dangerous as other road users become frustrated following a truck doing 40MPH.

Technoglogy has improved road safety massively over the last number of years and this law is now out dated. In most circumstances, 50MPH is a perfectly suitable speed for an LGV and as drivers have to pass stringent tests to drive an LGV, they are well able to judge this for themselves.

If necessary, ban truck overtaking on two lane dual carriageways as well.

Why is this idea important?

Repeal the law which limits large goods vehicles to 40 MPH on A Roads.

This law is very impractical, causes congestion, is actually dangerous as other road users become frustrated following a truck doing 40MPH.

Technoglogy has improved road safety massively over the last number of years and this law is now out dated. In most circumstances, 50MPH is a perfectly suitable speed for an LGV and as drivers have to pass stringent tests to drive an LGV, they are well able to judge this for themselves.

If necessary, ban truck overtaking on two lane dual carriageways as well.

Ridiculous speed limits

There seems to be a proliferation of ever decreasing and increasingly ridiculous speed limits where road surfacing has been recently conducted.  These can be 20mph, even 10 mph, and they are so ridiculous that all drivers ignore them.  I don't know what legislation gives rise to this, but it is resulting in temporary road signs becoming things which are not credible any more.  Be realistic, and suggest a limit of say 40mph for goodness sake.

Why is this idea important?

There seems to be a proliferation of ever decreasing and increasingly ridiculous speed limits where road surfacing has been recently conducted.  These can be 20mph, even 10 mph, and they are so ridiculous that all drivers ignore them.  I don't know what legislation gives rise to this, but it is resulting in temporary road signs becoming things which are not credible any more.  Be realistic, and suggest a limit of say 40mph for goodness sake.

Allow properly qualified drivers to exceed speed limits.

Allow drivers who are RoSPA (or equivilant) qualified to exceed the 70mph speed limit on dual carriageways (of which motorways constitute) and certain national speed limit roads.

Why is this idea important?

Allow drivers who are RoSPA (or equivilant) qualified to exceed the 70mph speed limit on dual carriageways (of which motorways constitute) and certain national speed limit roads.

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'Open Transparency' by Police Force over the use of Speed Devices.

At present, the police force is not obliged to send the driver of a vehicle alleged of a speeding offence with the Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) any factual evidence of the alleged offence, such as photographic/make & model of device/calibration certificate/operators detail. etc. This is only provided in court if the case is contested.

In order, to improve better relations betweem the police and public; the above information should be provided to the driver as a matter of course, with the NIP showing candidness on the part of the police that there have nothing to hide. After all our constitution does say that a person is innocent unless proving guilty.

Why is this idea important?

'Open Transparency' by Police Force over the use of Speed Devices.

At present, the police force is not obliged to send the driver of a vehicle alleged of a speeding offence with the Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) any factual evidence of the alleged offence, such as photographic/make & model of device/calibration certificate/operators detail. etc. This is only provided in court if the case is contested.

In order, to improve better relations betweem the police and public; the above information should be provided to the driver as a matter of course, with the NIP showing candidness on the part of the police that there have nothing to hide. After all our constitution does say that a person is innocent unless proving guilty.

Stop reducing speed limits to quite inappropriate levels

Stop encouraging speed limits to be widely reduced as a general alleged contribution to road safety. Restore some common sense into the control of motorists and encourage better driving habits and better road engineering. Only the few law abiding motorists take much notice of, and hence suffer from, these silly speed limits and they suffer the wrath of those who seem to get away with taking little notice. Nobody seems to have recently read the Highway Code and they certainly do not observe it. For instance how many parents hold the hands of their children when walking them to school as required by the Highway Code. Also restore Police Traffic patrols with a mandate to warn and advise motorists except where driving behaviour is very dangerous.

IUt would also be a good idea to introduce differing speed limits eg higher speeeds overnight, reduced motorway speeds in the lane next to road works with say 10mph higher speeds in the adjoining lane. Lowwr speeds outside schools for the busy times only.

Why is this idea important?

Stop encouraging speed limits to be widely reduced as a general alleged contribution to road safety. Restore some common sense into the control of motorists and encourage better driving habits and better road engineering. Only the few law abiding motorists take much notice of, and hence suffer from, these silly speed limits and they suffer the wrath of those who seem to get away with taking little notice. Nobody seems to have recently read the Highway Code and they certainly do not observe it. For instance how many parents hold the hands of their children when walking them to school as required by the Highway Code. Also restore Police Traffic patrols with a mandate to warn and advise motorists except where driving behaviour is very dangerous.

IUt would also be a good idea to introduce differing speed limits eg higher speeeds overnight, reduced motorway speeds in the lane next to road works with say 10mph higher speeds in the adjoining lane. Lowwr speeds outside schools for the busy times only.

50MPH for Lorries

As a supermarket HGV Driver and regular user of the Thrapston to Peterborough road, I am convinced that this particular road as weel as many othere A roads should be raised to 50MPH for all HGV's.

Why is this idea important?

As a supermarket HGV Driver and regular user of the Thrapston to Peterborough road, I am convinced that this particular road as weel as many othere A roads should be raised to 50MPH for all HGV's.

Raise the speed limit for mopeds to 45MPH

The 30MPH speed limit for mopeds needs to be raised so as the moped as the capability to keep up with the flow of traffic, so by reducing the risk to the rider due to the frustration of some motorists who are more likely to make a rash manouver to overtake when being held up by a moped.

Why is this idea important?

The 30MPH speed limit for mopeds needs to be raised so as the moped as the capability to keep up with the flow of traffic, so by reducing the risk to the rider due to the frustration of some motorists who are more likely to make a rash manouver to overtake when being held up by a moped.

Increase motorway speed limits to 80 or 90mph

Speed limits are exactly that – limits. When learning to drive you are constantly informed about this and told to drive at a reasonable speed – either at the limit or below. I am fine with this. What I am not fine with is the limit of otherwise well maintained, long and straight roads, free of potholes, well sign posted but with archaic speed LIMITS of 70mph – that we call motorways. We all know that modern cars can travel at speeds probably double this but what makes modern motoring different to when I was driving as a young lad is that cars are better maintained and, for example, can easily drive at high speed without steering wheel judder; not being able to brake properly (old Mini, for example); presence of ABS almost as standard these days etc etc.

If common sense prevailed, limits should be 80 or 90 (mph) on motorways and the decision of what speed to drive left to the driver (taking into consideration road conditions, weather, number of cars on the road etc.) I appreciate that faster speeds mean more CO2 but at 3am on the M5 going south to Devon, why is it that 70mph is even a moderately acceptable limit!?!?!?!

Why is this idea important?

Speed limits are exactly that – limits. When learning to drive you are constantly informed about this and told to drive at a reasonable speed – either at the limit or below. I am fine with this. What I am not fine with is the limit of otherwise well maintained, long and straight roads, free of potholes, well sign posted but with archaic speed LIMITS of 70mph – that we call motorways. We all know that modern cars can travel at speeds probably double this but what makes modern motoring different to when I was driving as a young lad is that cars are better maintained and, for example, can easily drive at high speed without steering wheel judder; not being able to brake properly (old Mini, for example); presence of ABS almost as standard these days etc etc.

If common sense prevailed, limits should be 80 or 90 (mph) on motorways and the decision of what speed to drive left to the driver (taking into consideration road conditions, weather, number of cars on the road etc.) I appreciate that faster speeds mean more CO2 but at 3am on the M5 going south to Devon, why is it that 70mph is even a moderately acceptable limit!?!?!?!

Restore National Speed Limits

Many County Councils are imposing without proper consultation 50 and 40 mph limits on good roads because the the can and to reduce accidents.  One county in particular, Oxfordshire, unless you are on the major trunk roads, the county is rapidly reducing speed limits throughout rural areas and former A roads.

Examples are A4421, A417, A4260 and many many rural roads.

 

 

Why is this idea important?

Many County Councils are imposing without proper consultation 50 and 40 mph limits on good roads because the the can and to reduce accidents.  One county in particular, Oxfordshire, unless you are on the major trunk roads, the county is rapidly reducing speed limits throughout rural areas and former A roads.

Examples are A4421, A417, A4260 and many many rural roads.

 

 

Scrap differential speed limits for goods vehicles

Scrap the different speed limits that apply to goods vehicles over 2T and 7.5T on all classes of road. The speed limit will be harmonised for all vehicles.

Why is this idea important?

Scrap the different speed limits that apply to goods vehicles over 2T and 7.5T on all classes of road. The speed limit will be harmonised for all vehicles.

Motorcycle speed limits

A motorcycle has a weight of aproximatly a quater of a small car, and some of the larger spv weight twice that. As such the energy due to the speed of a motorcycle is propartionaly lower. We have lower speed limits for heavy vehicles and when trailers are involved.

Modern motorcycles are high performance machines, which are capable of very high speeds and have the brakes  and handeling to match. When a motorcycle crashes, it is usually the rider who comes off worse, so there is very little risk to the wider public. The rider would only have themself to blame.

Therefore the speed limits for modern motorcycles should  be increased. this would be in line with trucks who have lower limits, It may also improve the flow of trafic as motorcycles would quickly move through trafffic remaning out of the way of other drivers.

Sugget say, for 20, 30, and 40 limits remain the same. But 50 for card, 60 for bikes. 60 goes to 70, 70 Dual carrige way is 80 for a bike, and motorways are 100mph. Many motorcycles would not go at these speeds, as it would be too hard work for the rider for a long period.

Why is this idea important?

A motorcycle has a weight of aproximatly a quater of a small car, and some of the larger spv weight twice that. As such the energy due to the speed of a motorcycle is propartionaly lower. We have lower speed limits for heavy vehicles and when trailers are involved.

Modern motorcycles are high performance machines, which are capable of very high speeds and have the brakes  and handeling to match. When a motorcycle crashes, it is usually the rider who comes off worse, so there is very little risk to the wider public. The rider would only have themself to blame.

Therefore the speed limits for modern motorcycles should  be increased. this would be in line with trucks who have lower limits, It may also improve the flow of trafic as motorcycles would quickly move through trafffic remaning out of the way of other drivers.

Sugget say, for 20, 30, and 40 limits remain the same. But 50 for card, 60 for bikes. 60 goes to 70, 70 Dual carrige way is 80 for a bike, and motorways are 100mph. Many motorcycles would not go at these speeds, as it would be too hard work for the rider for a long period.

Raise motorway upper speed limit

As a current professional driver (and former police officer), I believe serious consideration should be given to raising the upper speed limit from 70mph to 80mph (or even 90 mph).  Most drivers can be observed on any day of the week,  travelling at 80 mph – when not restricted to the 50mph "average speed" in the multitude of road works enforced by cameras. 

Why is this idea important?

As a current professional driver (and former police officer), I believe serious consideration should be given to raising the upper speed limit from 70mph to 80mph (or even 90 mph).  Most drivers can be observed on any day of the week,  travelling at 80 mph – when not restricted to the 50mph "average speed" in the multitude of road works enforced by cameras. 

Make the speeding laws work FOR road safety

There undoubtedly are many laws on the statute book that need drastic revision or outright repeal and it is to the credit of the present government that these are being examined.

Of course there are also laws that are perfectly reasonable if they are used properly for the purpose for which they were intended but are being abused for purposes other than that intended. The anti-terrorism legislation is a well recognised example of how a law intended for one purpose has been corrupted for use for other objectives. Another example that touches a very large number of people in the UK is the way in which road traffic laws, particularly speed regulation, are being abused. One might forgive an element of abuse if the objective of improving road safety was being achieved but unfortunately there is a plethora of data to demonstrate that the very opposite is the actual situation. The law is being routinely abused and corrupted by those who should be upholding it and to add insult to injury it is being abused to the detriment of road safety.

Motoring cases are, for the most part, subject to summary trial. Of course the whole basis of the summary trial is contrary to one of the basic precepts of our legal system which demands that the accused is tried by a jury of his peers. But, important as it is, I shall leaving that aside for now.

One of the basic safeguards to try to ensure the veracity and integrity of evidence is that no-one can be convicted of a criminal offence unless there is at least two independent positive corroborating evidences demonstrating guilt. The situation with speeding offences is that a single officer or civilian camera operator provides all the evidence. What should happen is that the officer/operator must first form an opinion that a specific vehicle is exceeding the speed limit. This is called Prior Opinion. Only then may he turn to the “camera” to provide verification of the speed. Leaving aside the proven unreliability of the information produced from such devices, while the requirement for 2 evidences may just about be satisfied in no way can it possibly satisfy the requirement for independence. In reality what happens is that the officer/operator uses his “camera” to go on a fishing trip to try to detect a vehicle exceeding the limit and when he does succeed he retrofits his prior opinion that the vehicle was speeding. The officer/operator will swear black and blue that he formed his opinion prior to using the camera but examination of the video, if there is one, invariably demonstrates that, unless the officer/operator has the speed and agility of Superman it is inconceivable that he could perform both tasks consecutively in the correct sequence.

Even when the officer/operator is demonstrated to have been lying to the court his evidence is accepted to convict the often innocent and almost always perfectly safe driver. It is a stain on our hitherto excellent road safety record and a very black stain on the reputation of British justice. I am also convinced that these injustices are adversely affecting the relationship between the law abiding general public and the police. I believe that perfectly safe drivers who are “fleeced” by this process well, and I believe often do, resolve never again to give the co-operation to the police upon which they depend for their effective operation.

Again, if road safety were improving and only dangerous drivers were being targeted as a result of this activity albeit illegal a tacit “blind eye” might be turned to what is going on but that is not the case. Thousands, perhaps millions of perfectly safe drivers have their lives adversely affected and in some cases destroyed by a process that has also massively damaged road safety. It has no redeeming qualities.

There are those who say “if you break the law, i.e. speed, you must suffer the consequences”. That is the absolute view but the pragmatists know perfectly well that laws are not and cannot be written to encompass all situations so common sense musty be used in the application of the law. An excellent case demonstrating this is the law against assisting suicide versus those who help someone to avail themselves of Dignitas. Clearly they break British law but common sense demands they will not be prosecuted. The law is not and can never be absolute.

You might think that I wish to see all speed regulations abolished. If you did you would be wrong. It is true that a lot of work needs to be done to make them realistic and effective but to abolish them would not be wise. What I would like to see is properly resourced traffic patrols back on our roads with their clearly stated mission to improve road safety. Specifically they must not be tasked by any means to improve clear-up statistics or to be quasi revenue agents. For the most part, education and training is the answer but for the few who are reckless and dangerous they would have the traffic laws, including speeding, to take these bad and dangerous drivers off the road.

We must regain the position of being in the vanguard of countries for Road Safety and return to a position articulated by the MP who, when he introduced them to the UK, stated that safe, responsible drivers should have no fear of speed limits.

Despite the length of this document, for which I apologise, there are many more facets to this and a lot of information and data to back up what I say here.
Although I am frankly sceptical that this will be addressed, I am prepared to supply the data and information of which I speak and to work with anyone who genuinely wishes to fix this appalling situation.

Why is this idea important?

There undoubtedly are many laws on the statute book that need drastic revision or outright repeal and it is to the credit of the present government that these are being examined.

Of course there are also laws that are perfectly reasonable if they are used properly for the purpose for which they were intended but are being abused for purposes other than that intended. The anti-terrorism legislation is a well recognised example of how a law intended for one purpose has been corrupted for use for other objectives. Another example that touches a very large number of people in the UK is the way in which road traffic laws, particularly speed regulation, are being abused. One might forgive an element of abuse if the objective of improving road safety was being achieved but unfortunately there is a plethora of data to demonstrate that the very opposite is the actual situation. The law is being routinely abused and corrupted by those who should be upholding it and to add insult to injury it is being abused to the detriment of road safety.

Motoring cases are, for the most part, subject to summary trial. Of course the whole basis of the summary trial is contrary to one of the basic precepts of our legal system which demands that the accused is tried by a jury of his peers. But, important as it is, I shall leaving that aside for now.

One of the basic safeguards to try to ensure the veracity and integrity of evidence is that no-one can be convicted of a criminal offence unless there is at least two independent positive corroborating evidences demonstrating guilt. The situation with speeding offences is that a single officer or civilian camera operator provides all the evidence. What should happen is that the officer/operator must first form an opinion that a specific vehicle is exceeding the speed limit. This is called Prior Opinion. Only then may he turn to the “camera” to provide verification of the speed. Leaving aside the proven unreliability of the information produced from such devices, while the requirement for 2 evidences may just about be satisfied in no way can it possibly satisfy the requirement for independence. In reality what happens is that the officer/operator uses his “camera” to go on a fishing trip to try to detect a vehicle exceeding the limit and when he does succeed he retrofits his prior opinion that the vehicle was speeding. The officer/operator will swear black and blue that he formed his opinion prior to using the camera but examination of the video, if there is one, invariably demonstrates that, unless the officer/operator has the speed and agility of Superman it is inconceivable that he could perform both tasks consecutively in the correct sequence.

Even when the officer/operator is demonstrated to have been lying to the court his evidence is accepted to convict the often innocent and almost always perfectly safe driver. It is a stain on our hitherto excellent road safety record and a very black stain on the reputation of British justice. I am also convinced that these injustices are adversely affecting the relationship between the law abiding general public and the police. I believe that perfectly safe drivers who are “fleeced” by this process well, and I believe often do, resolve never again to give the co-operation to the police upon which they depend for their effective operation.

Again, if road safety were improving and only dangerous drivers were being targeted as a result of this activity albeit illegal a tacit “blind eye” might be turned to what is going on but that is not the case. Thousands, perhaps millions of perfectly safe drivers have their lives adversely affected and in some cases destroyed by a process that has also massively damaged road safety. It has no redeeming qualities.

There are those who say “if you break the law, i.e. speed, you must suffer the consequences”. That is the absolute view but the pragmatists know perfectly well that laws are not and cannot be written to encompass all situations so common sense musty be used in the application of the law. An excellent case demonstrating this is the law against assisting suicide versus those who help someone to avail themselves of Dignitas. Clearly they break British law but common sense demands they will not be prosecuted. The law is not and can never be absolute.

You might think that I wish to see all speed regulations abolished. If you did you would be wrong. It is true that a lot of work needs to be done to make them realistic and effective but to abolish them would not be wise. What I would like to see is properly resourced traffic patrols back on our roads with their clearly stated mission to improve road safety. Specifically they must not be tasked by any means to improve clear-up statistics or to be quasi revenue agents. For the most part, education and training is the answer but for the few who are reckless and dangerous they would have the traffic laws, including speeding, to take these bad and dangerous drivers off the road.

We must regain the position of being in the vanguard of countries for Road Safety and return to a position articulated by the MP who, when he introduced them to the UK, stated that safe, responsible drivers should have no fear of speed limits.

Despite the length of this document, for which I apologise, there are many more facets to this and a lot of information and data to back up what I say here.
Although I am frankly sceptical that this will be addressed, I am prepared to supply the data and information of which I speak and to work with anyone who genuinely wishes to fix this appalling situation.

Introduce a Minimum Speed Limit on Motorways & Dual Carriageways

By introducing a minimum speed limit on Motorways and dual carriageways you will ease the congestion of the main routes during periods of heavy traffic.

Why is this idea important?

By introducing a minimum speed limit on Motorways and dual carriageways you will ease the congestion of the main routes during periods of heavy traffic.