Speeding fines/points

At the moment, if you get caught speeding you get points and a fine.

They should make the fines cost more. and not give points for speeding.

points should be used for other related issues.

Why is this idea important?

At the moment, if you get caught speeding you get points and a fine.

They should make the fines cost more. and not give points for speeding.

points should be used for other related issues.

Motorway congestion

Police Patrols should issue fixed penalty notices to drivers who fail to obey the Highway Code by driving on the left except when overtaking. Basically, if there is a gap in front of you then you should be safely moving to the left.

Ban lorries from lane 2 on dual carriageways and both outside lanes on motorways. Make the minimum speed for cars and other vehicles that can use motorways the same as the maximum speed for lorries.

Remind van drivers that their speed limit is 60mph and therefore should be banned from lane 3 on 3 lane moroways.

Variable speed restictions work to increase FLOW of traffic, so would minimum speed at certain times of the day

If vehicles cannot maintain this minimum speed, even uphill, then they should be banned during certain busy periods.

 

 

Why is this idea important?

Police Patrols should issue fixed penalty notices to drivers who fail to obey the Highway Code by driving on the left except when overtaking. Basically, if there is a gap in front of you then you should be safely moving to the left.

Ban lorries from lane 2 on dual carriageways and both outside lanes on motorways. Make the minimum speed for cars and other vehicles that can use motorways the same as the maximum speed for lorries.

Remind van drivers that their speed limit is 60mph and therefore should be banned from lane 3 on 3 lane moroways.

Variable speed restictions work to increase FLOW of traffic, so would minimum speed at certain times of the day

If vehicles cannot maintain this minimum speed, even uphill, then they should be banned during certain busy periods.

 

 

Speed Limits

Abolish them all, accept that some people are better able to drive carefully at whatever speed than others, the only time when people need to get points on their licence is when their driving could be argued to constitute a risk to other road users.

Why is this idea important?

Abolish them all, accept that some people are better able to drive carefully at whatever speed than others, the only time when people need to get points on their licence is when their driving could be argued to constitute a risk to other road users.

introduce a fixed speed restrictor for speeding offenders

for speeding offenders they would have the choice of having a speed restrictor fixed onto their vehicle( at their expense) or basnnes with a test. the restricted speed could be set by a judge, depending on the excess speed and circumstances of their offence. for example an offender that was caught in excess of the speed limit  on the motorway by a large margin would be banned from driving on the motorways for a period of 6 months,and have a restrictor put on their vehicle of 50mph for 6 months.  thenpoolice education progrsmme doesnt work however if you have someone age 22 having to drive at 40mph affect their streest cred and status with their peers. 

Why is this idea important?

for speeding offenders they would have the choice of having a speed restrictor fixed onto their vehicle( at their expense) or basnnes with a test. the restricted speed could be set by a judge, depending on the excess speed and circumstances of their offence. for example an offender that was caught in excess of the speed limit  on the motorway by a large margin would be banned from driving on the motorways for a period of 6 months,and have a restrictor put on their vehicle of 50mph for 6 months.  thenpoolice education progrsmme doesnt work however if you have someone age 22 having to drive at 40mph affect their streest cred and status with their peers. 

Return to fixed penalty for speeding

£60 fine and 3 points on your licence is a fairer and faster way of dealing with speeding up to 10 miles over 30mph speed limit. JPs now spend ages working out how much individuals should pay under an arbituary system of paying according to income. Individuals who know the system can offer no answer to income and no evidence of income is required. Other factors then have to be taken into account and the process is bureaucratic and unecessarily lengthy.

Why is this idea important?

£60 fine and 3 points on your licence is a fairer and faster way of dealing with speeding up to 10 miles over 30mph speed limit. JPs now spend ages working out how much individuals should pay under an arbituary system of paying according to income. Individuals who know the system can offer no answer to income and no evidence of income is required. Other factors then have to be taken into account and the process is bureaucratic and unecessarily lengthy.

Removal of the 70 mph motorway limit

 

The 70 mph motorway limit is a relic of the past. Introduced in 1965 when cars lacked the modern safety features that almost every car on Britain's roads today have.  Today most drivers ignore the limit anyway, so why not scrap it completely? At the very least it should be raised.
The autobahn system in which an advisory speed limit of 80 mph is set is very effective and there is no noticeable difference in casualties between German autobahns and British motorways. The fact is for many days of the year it is perfectly safe for a vehicle to travel at speeds greater than 70 mph. And for those days where it isn't? Well I'm sure the British public have the ability to exercise some degree of common sense.

Why is this idea important?

 

The 70 mph motorway limit is a relic of the past. Introduced in 1965 when cars lacked the modern safety features that almost every car on Britain's roads today have.  Today most drivers ignore the limit anyway, so why not scrap it completely? At the very least it should be raised.
The autobahn system in which an advisory speed limit of 80 mph is set is very effective and there is no noticeable difference in casualties between German autobahns and British motorways. The fact is for many days of the year it is perfectly safe for a vehicle to travel at speeds greater than 70 mph. And for those days where it isn't? Well I'm sure the British public have the ability to exercise some degree of common sense.

An environmental/safety tax upon speeding, in tandem with criminal fines for highest speeds

To raise much tax towards road costs and funding A & E services. 

Drivers would soon get used to what would happen at various speeds but there might be a period of introduction.

The speed limits would be lowered on motorways and dual carriageways down to, say 67 mph. Other limits would also be put down slightly.

There would be more and cleverer speed cameras everywhere; so many that people need not do the dangerous sudden slowing down as they do now.  Also several more in-town reminder-of-limit signs. Mobile cameras operated by "civilians"  working for police (not "community" would be involved in research connected with the new rules.

Anybody who is worried about dangerous speeding in their area would be allowed to prove this to the police (who constantly disbelieve us nowadays) by being provided with discrete smaller camera which the community would be permitted to site upon telegraph poles or private dwellings.

If vehicles are speeding at a designate number of points above the speed limit an instant environmental/safety tax is charged automatically to the vehicles (which all have trackers or other tagging method). 

The fines would be much higher for heavier vehicles and for lorries from overseas.

At a certain number of units above each particular speed limit this would no longer be a "tax", but would be a "fine" or "criminal charge".  Some of the money obtained from fines would be put into the enviromental/safety tax fund.

For example, if the in-town or residential limit were lowered  to, say, 28mph. speeding up to 34 mph would be a "tax", which would be paid in a similar way to a bill.  Between 35 to 41 mph this would be an increased level of fine, and anything above would be a criminal  fine or charge as nowadays. The safe levels for which type of tax would be decided by road safety experts.

Special limits should be introduced for narrow rural roads, at similar levels to the 28 residential ones. Drivers ignore the potential for cyclists and walkers being just around the next bend.  Such scenic routes should never become rat-runs, or cut throughs; people must learn to slow down and be part of rural life.

In towns, the 40 mph limit would be changed to 38:-  speeders taxed at certain level 38 to 43, taxed higher at 43- 50;  fined when going faster.

New 67 limit (or lower) on faster roads would bring considerable savings in fuel.  Special lane rules for lorries and other heavy or possibly slower vehicles would be enforced separately from private cars.

Car speeders at 67 – 74 pay tax, at 74 – 78 a slightly higher tax, and speeders at over 78 would be charged. (Quick overtaking for safety of one or two vehicles could be used to plea to get some taxes reduced after the event but might be inconvenient).  Any person doing 90 or over would be severely dealt with (why are people permitted to get away with such speeds nowadays?).

Recently a young lad was killed while walking on a motorway at night (his body having been smashed into by numerous vehicles).  People who speed at night will not be permitted the excuse that "there was nobody else on the road".  There are also numerous instances of accidents through deer and other large unexpected obstacles being on roads.

 

 

Why is this idea important?

To raise much tax towards road costs and funding A & E services. 

Drivers would soon get used to what would happen at various speeds but there might be a period of introduction.

The speed limits would be lowered on motorways and dual carriageways down to, say 67 mph. Other limits would also be put down slightly.

There would be more and cleverer speed cameras everywhere; so many that people need not do the dangerous sudden slowing down as they do now.  Also several more in-town reminder-of-limit signs. Mobile cameras operated by "civilians"  working for police (not "community" would be involved in research connected with the new rules.

Anybody who is worried about dangerous speeding in their area would be allowed to prove this to the police (who constantly disbelieve us nowadays) by being provided with discrete smaller camera which the community would be permitted to site upon telegraph poles or private dwellings.

If vehicles are speeding at a designate number of points above the speed limit an instant environmental/safety tax is charged automatically to the vehicles (which all have trackers or other tagging method). 

The fines would be much higher for heavier vehicles and for lorries from overseas.

At a certain number of units above each particular speed limit this would no longer be a "tax", but would be a "fine" or "criminal charge".  Some of the money obtained from fines would be put into the enviromental/safety tax fund.

For example, if the in-town or residential limit were lowered  to, say, 28mph. speeding up to 34 mph would be a "tax", which would be paid in a similar way to a bill.  Between 35 to 41 mph this would be an increased level of fine, and anything above would be a criminal  fine or charge as nowadays. The safe levels for which type of tax would be decided by road safety experts.

Special limits should be introduced for narrow rural roads, at similar levels to the 28 residential ones. Drivers ignore the potential for cyclists and walkers being just around the next bend.  Such scenic routes should never become rat-runs, or cut throughs; people must learn to slow down and be part of rural life.

In towns, the 40 mph limit would be changed to 38:-  speeders taxed at certain level 38 to 43, taxed higher at 43- 50;  fined when going faster.

New 67 limit (or lower) on faster roads would bring considerable savings in fuel.  Special lane rules for lorries and other heavy or possibly slower vehicles would be enforced separately from private cars.

Car speeders at 67 – 74 pay tax, at 74 – 78 a slightly higher tax, and speeders at over 78 would be charged. (Quick overtaking for safety of one or two vehicles could be used to plea to get some taxes reduced after the event but might be inconvenient).  Any person doing 90 or over would be severely dealt with (why are people permitted to get away with such speeds nowadays?).

Recently a young lad was killed while walking on a motorway at night (his body having been smashed into by numerous vehicles).  People who speed at night will not be permitted the excuse that "there was nobody else on the road".  There are also numerous instances of accidents through deer and other large unexpected obstacles being on roads.

 

 

Alternative ‘punishments’ to motorists caught speeding

Why do the government not offer motorists caught speeding for the first time the alternative of carrying out work in their own communities rather than a fine or speeding points. Most normal, decent human beings would find it more of a deterent if they had to carry out duties/work in the communities they live, in front of their neighbours etc. There would be a two fold benefit to this in that the community would be improve e.g. litter picking, helding the elderley carry out gardening, assisting at a nursing home/ hospital etc and the person would incurr greater inconvenience in their lives which would have more of an impact than writing a cheque to the police and posting off their licence to DVLA.  

Why is this idea important?

Why do the government not offer motorists caught speeding for the first time the alternative of carrying out work in their own communities rather than a fine or speeding points. Most normal, decent human beings would find it more of a deterent if they had to carry out duties/work in the communities they live, in front of their neighbours etc. There would be a two fold benefit to this in that the community would be improve e.g. litter picking, helding the elderley carry out gardening, assisting at a nursing home/ hospital etc and the person would incurr greater inconvenience in their lives which would have more of an impact than writing a cheque to the police and posting off their licence to DVLA.  

Increase the Top Speed on Motorways and Dual carriageways to 80mph

Few drivers currently conform to 70mph on motorways and dual carriageways. 

Many constabularies allow 10%+5mph over the limit, or 85mph top speed, on motorways before prosecuting, anway.

It's not speed that kills in itself.  Its bad driving (which may involve inappropriate speed) that causes accidents; but that is harder to identify and deal with.

Dangerous or careless driving needs to be more fully enforced.

Why is this idea important?

Few drivers currently conform to 70mph on motorways and dual carriageways. 

Many constabularies allow 10%+5mph over the limit, or 85mph top speed, on motorways before prosecuting, anway.

It's not speed that kills in itself.  Its bad driving (which may involve inappropriate speed) that causes accidents; but that is harder to identify and deal with.

Dangerous or careless driving needs to be more fully enforced.

Reduce and Simplify Speed Limit

Reduce and simplify speed limits for all vehicles on all roads (possible exception of motorways). For example, all roads within a town area to have a speed limit of 20mph and all roads outside of town area to be 40mph. There would be little or no need for speed limit signs either.

Why is this idea important?

Reduce and simplify speed limits for all vehicles on all roads (possible exception of motorways). For example, all roads within a town area to have a speed limit of 20mph and all roads outside of town area to be 40mph. There would be little or no need for speed limit signs either.

Speed Bumps

As a law-abiding motorist, speed bumps  ( cushions or humps) are an insult. Speed bumps are used by local authorities to satisfy the "need-to-be-seen-doing-something" demand of public opinion. Furthermore, speed bumps penalise smaller fuel efficient vehicle users whilst larger vehicles such as people carriers are exempt. My local Council informs me that speed bumps are targeted in lower income areas where their is a higher risk of danger(which doesnt exist I have discovered through a FOI request). This means that those who are reliant on a vehicle are more susceptible to continuos damage and expense all to satisfy the perception of politicians.
 Also, speedbumps are constructed in various shapes and sizes, so there is no "right" way to go over them. Councils tell us that if you are travelling within the speed limit then their shouldnt be any damage to your vehicle, but local repairmen know differently.
I am proposing that the building of speedbumps should be scrapped, and when the current ones are in disrepair then they should be removed. I am in favour of 20mph zones and other speed calming measures( such as single lane traffic) but speed bumps are only there to punish the law abiding majority.
 Furthermore, speedbumps are being put in areas where there has been NO accidents as a result of speed, further strengthening the view that local councillors all over Britain are using speedbumps to make themselves look good and not using our money to tackle the real problems on our roads like potholes.
The burden on motorists is already huge and having to repair our suspension everytime we go for an  MOT is theft.

Why is this idea important?

As a law-abiding motorist, speed bumps  ( cushions or humps) are an insult. Speed bumps are used by local authorities to satisfy the "need-to-be-seen-doing-something" demand of public opinion. Furthermore, speed bumps penalise smaller fuel efficient vehicle users whilst larger vehicles such as people carriers are exempt. My local Council informs me that speed bumps are targeted in lower income areas where their is a higher risk of danger(which doesnt exist I have discovered through a FOI request). This means that those who are reliant on a vehicle are more susceptible to continuos damage and expense all to satisfy the perception of politicians.
 Also, speedbumps are constructed in various shapes and sizes, so there is no "right" way to go over them. Councils tell us that if you are travelling within the speed limit then their shouldnt be any damage to your vehicle, but local repairmen know differently.
I am proposing that the building of speedbumps should be scrapped, and when the current ones are in disrepair then they should be removed. I am in favour of 20mph zones and other speed calming measures( such as single lane traffic) but speed bumps are only there to punish the law abiding majority.
 Furthermore, speedbumps are being put in areas where there has been NO accidents as a result of speed, further strengthening the view that local councillors all over Britain are using speedbumps to make themselves look good and not using our money to tackle the real problems on our roads like potholes.
The burden on motorists is already huge and having to repair our suspension everytime we go for an  MOT is theft.

Remove and destroy for ever the ridiculous smiley face road signs… WE ARE NOT PLAYSCHOOL CHILDREN!!!

Well, the title says it all. Get rid of the silly digital smiley / frown face speed check signs! They serve no purpose but to infuriate motorists by insulting their intelligence and by suggesting that we should be treated like children. Everybody I know who passes them admits to speeding up instead of slowing down when they see one. They have an adverse effect and they make us look like morons.  I'm not a moron! I'm a mature adult who finds it offensive to be so blatantly patronised by a ridiculous nanny state.

Why is this idea important?

Well, the title says it all. Get rid of the silly digital smiley / frown face speed check signs! They serve no purpose but to infuriate motorists by insulting their intelligence and by suggesting that we should be treated like children. Everybody I know who passes them admits to speeding up instead of slowing down when they see one. They have an adverse effect and they make us look like morons.  I'm not a moron! I'm a mature adult who finds it offensive to be so blatantly patronised by a ridiculous nanny state.

Reduce the speed limit on motorways

Currently the speed limit on all british motorways is 70 mph. Most drivers push that speed limit and risk road safety by travelling around 80 on average.

I propose to lower the speed limit on motorways to 60mph. The americans can function with a largely 50mph limit. I think we can too.

Why is this idea important?

Currently the speed limit on all british motorways is 70 mph. Most drivers push that speed limit and risk road safety by travelling around 80 on average.

I propose to lower the speed limit on motorways to 60mph. The americans can function with a largely 50mph limit. I think we can too.

Make speed camera photo’s available

Currently if you receive a speeding fine resulting from a speed camera you are not allowed to see the evidence unless and until you go to court. You have the choice to accept a fixed penalty notice or dispute it without the normal 'habeous corpus', you are asked to take on faith that there is evidence to support the allegation of an offence.

Supporting evidence i.e, the photographic evidence from the speed camera and the speed calculations should be sent out with the penalty notice. You could then be sure that you had committed an offence, currently there is no way that you can be certain that it was your vehicle which tripped the camera so you might be forced into paying a fine for an offence you have not committed.

Why is this idea important?

Currently if you receive a speeding fine resulting from a speed camera you are not allowed to see the evidence unless and until you go to court. You have the choice to accept a fixed penalty notice or dispute it without the normal 'habeous corpus', you are asked to take on faith that there is evidence to support the allegation of an offence.

Supporting evidence i.e, the photographic evidence from the speed camera and the speed calculations should be sent out with the penalty notice. You could then be sure that you had committed an offence, currently there is no way that you can be certain that it was your vehicle which tripped the camera so you might be forced into paying a fine for an offence you have not committed.

Speed related speeding fines

Introduce a system where you get higher fines and more penalty points for the higher percentage above the speed limit you are caught doing; with a de minimis set of 10%.

For example :-

In a 30 MPH limit :-

Caught doing 32 MPH – No action!

Caught doing 39 MPH – £60 fine – 2 Penalty Points

Caught doing 49 MPH – £180 fine and 4 PPs

Caught doing 59 MPH – £500 fine and 7 PPs

And so on…………………………..

 

Why is this idea important?

Introduce a system where you get higher fines and more penalty points for the higher percentage above the speed limit you are caught doing; with a de minimis set of 10%.

For example :-

In a 30 MPH limit :-

Caught doing 32 MPH – No action!

Caught doing 39 MPH – £60 fine – 2 Penalty Points

Caught doing 49 MPH – £180 fine and 4 PPs

Caught doing 59 MPH – £500 fine and 7 PPs

And so on…………………………..

 

Make the police show the evidence of speeding offense.

Currently if you are 'caught' speeding you are not allowed to see the evidence against you unless you wish to plead not guilty. i.e. go to court.

The photo evidence that the police have should as a matter of course be sent to you with the letter.  The reason why this is important is that often speed cameras especially hand held ones can be 'timedout'  i.e. the speed they show is the previous cars speed.  I have challenged this and won on more than one occasion.

I find it offensive that i can not see the evidence against me unless i challenge the accusation.  This is not a police state.  They work for US.

Why is this idea important?

Currently if you are 'caught' speeding you are not allowed to see the evidence against you unless you wish to plead not guilty. i.e. go to court.

The photo evidence that the police have should as a matter of course be sent to you with the letter.  The reason why this is important is that often speed cameras especially hand held ones can be 'timedout'  i.e. the speed they show is the previous cars speed.  I have challenged this and won on more than one occasion.

I find it offensive that i can not see the evidence against me unless i challenge the accusation.  This is not a police state.  They work for US.

Remove speeding loopholes and increase sentences

More speed cameras, better hidden, and get rid of all the "Nick Freeman" loopholes that allow reckless and dangerous criminals to escape the law.

To placate the whingers who claim speeding fines are a tax, scrap speeding fines and replace them with a mandatory 5 year prison term and lifetime driving ban.

Why is this idea important?

More speed cameras, better hidden, and get rid of all the "Nick Freeman" loopholes that allow reckless and dangerous criminals to escape the law.

To placate the whingers who claim speeding fines are a tax, scrap speeding fines and replace them with a mandatory 5 year prison term and lifetime driving ban.

Remove all speed limits & instead police dangerous driving

I would like all speed limits removed, and replace them with laws created to punish people who drive dangerously, where "dangerous" is defined as what would reasonably regarded as an action likely to cause harm by a group of one's peers.

I would like the new laws to include harsh penalties (incarceration) for people who cause accidents when driving "dangerously."

Police could apply standard "rules-of-thumb" to identify "dangerous" driving, which would be commonly understood by the public.

Why is this idea important?

I would like all speed limits removed, and replace them with laws created to punish people who drive dangerously, where "dangerous" is defined as what would reasonably regarded as an action likely to cause harm by a group of one's peers.

I would like the new laws to include harsh penalties (incarceration) for people who cause accidents when driving "dangerously."

Police could apply standard "rules-of-thumb" to identify "dangerous" driving, which would be commonly understood by the public.