Education for Police Officers

Police officers need basic English literacy and basic numeracy in order to be effective in their work.

It should be the case that he police force is an 'investors in people' organisation, that new officers do not get on the basic pay grade until they are qualified (literate and numerate), until which time, they should be obliged to take day release classes in English language reading, comprehension, and writing, alongside classes in basic mathematics. Probably someone else will add some form of training in reasoning and mediation.

During this time they would be paid a reduced wage. These are fundamental and basic skills that should equip every school leaver to be gainfully employed, but in the police they are essential skills for an officer to be fully productive no matter how well an officer can hold and use a riot shield, most officers need written English skills daily.

One could add that police officers passing basic spoken language skills in foreign languages – let the exam boards decide this – could receive a one-off bonus payment to aid in policing our many foreign visitors and immigrant communities. Such payments would be higher for unusual languages, such as Russian, less for langugages of nations who generally speak English, such as German or Swedish, and nominal (perhaps to certify the officers skill) for languages that officers already speak as their second language but which are nonetheless useful in their police work.

Why is this idea important?

Police officers need basic English literacy and basic numeracy in order to be effective in their work.

It should be the case that he police force is an 'investors in people' organisation, that new officers do not get on the basic pay grade until they are qualified (literate and numerate), until which time, they should be obliged to take day release classes in English language reading, comprehension, and writing, alongside classes in basic mathematics. Probably someone else will add some form of training in reasoning and mediation.

During this time they would be paid a reduced wage. These are fundamental and basic skills that should equip every school leaver to be gainfully employed, but in the police they are essential skills for an officer to be fully productive no matter how well an officer can hold and use a riot shield, most officers need written English skills daily.

One could add that police officers passing basic spoken language skills in foreign languages – let the exam boards decide this – could receive a one-off bonus payment to aid in policing our many foreign visitors and immigrant communities. Such payments would be higher for unusual languages, such as Russian, less for langugages of nations who generally speak English, such as German or Swedish, and nominal (perhaps to certify the officers skill) for languages that officers already speak as their second language but which are nonetheless useful in their police work.

police cuts!

Dear Sirs, Not a Good move?….my area is just recovering from 'problem families' and the havoc to stable familys and neibourhood that they DISTROY!…."please if you insist on cutting POLICE numbers…….."PLEASE "instigate or make national policy STOPPING the right to housing (and Benifit) to  those that 'JUST MOVE ON'…….YES…I/we agree cuts are unaviodable…..But!….and here's the danger?….the selfsame cuts WILL result in greater social problems..AND a BIGGER SPEND TO RESOLVE .YOU need a FIXED/ENFORCED method to stop these people ("I know my rights!!!!!!)-they forget their obligation to other around them!……………………………………otherwise we WILL need the police "WE ARE WITH YOU?" in the old days these people/familys were on the "problem estates"- the police KNEW where to find them!!…..NON PC!……WE work (rubbish pay)…But…we have a sence of pride and value-whilst those (healthy 30 yr old/6'2"-lie in bed- claiming "I can't work-suffering depression!?….New car…SORRY! …THIS NEEDS ENDING!!!!!

Why is this idea important?

Dear Sirs, Not a Good move?….my area is just recovering from 'problem families' and the havoc to stable familys and neibourhood that they DISTROY!…."please if you insist on cutting POLICE numbers…….."PLEASE "instigate or make national policy STOPPING the right to housing (and Benifit) to  those that 'JUST MOVE ON'…….YES…I/we agree cuts are unaviodable…..But!….and here's the danger?….the selfsame cuts WILL result in greater social problems..AND a BIGGER SPEND TO RESOLVE .YOU need a FIXED/ENFORCED method to stop these people ("I know my rights!!!!!!)-they forget their obligation to other around them!……………………………………otherwise we WILL need the police "WE ARE WITH YOU?" in the old days these people/familys were on the "problem estates"- the police KNEW where to find them!!…..NON PC!……WE work (rubbish pay)…But…we have a sence of pride and value-whilst those (healthy 30 yr old/6'2"-lie in bed- claiming "I can't work-suffering depression!?….New car…SORRY! …THIS NEEDS ENDING!!!!!

Policing: Reducing Paperwork

I recently had cause to have to report a crime to the Met Police: the two officers who attended were the very image of professionalism but it was pointed out to me, after the box ticking and long-hand writing of a statement for me to sign, that this would need to be typed up when they returned to their station. 

It strikes me that where Ocado, Sainsbury and others can use PDAs, why can't the local constabulary? This would halve the amount of effort necessary and get more police back on the beat serving the public. 

Why is this idea important?

I recently had cause to have to report a crime to the Met Police: the two officers who attended were the very image of professionalism but it was pointed out to me, after the box ticking and long-hand writing of a statement for me to sign, that this would need to be typed up when they returned to their station. 

It strikes me that where Ocado, Sainsbury and others can use PDAs, why can't the local constabulary? This would halve the amount of effort necessary and get more police back on the beat serving the public. 

Policing

Policing has become more militaristic over the last government's tenure and has forgotten that it is a Police Service and not a Police Force.

The Service needs to be more accountable to the local people and Councils and not Central Government.  Our Precept includes a large sum for the Police and yet we have no say in what is done nor is there any local accountability. 

We rarely see a Police presence in the Village as they are all in the City.

The Police should be accountable to the community they serve and which pays their wages.

 

Why is this idea important?

Policing has become more militaristic over the last government's tenure and has forgotten that it is a Police Service and not a Police Force.

The Service needs to be more accountable to the local people and Councils and not Central Government.  Our Precept includes a large sum for the Police and yet we have no say in what is done nor is there any local accountability. 

We rarely see a Police presence in the Village as they are all in the City.

The Police should be accountable to the community they serve and which pays their wages.

 

Police Paramilitary Style Tactics

Lets put an end to these macho, gung – ho, SAS wannabe’s wearing their black military gear, bursting into domestic properties, screaming “ON THE FLOOR!!!, ON THE FLOOR!!!” etc., getting all hyped up like sharks in a feeding frenzy, feeling really brave  – when all they’re confronted by is some pathetic, sleep-weary bag-head with less meat on his bones than on a butcher’s apron and who’s repeatedly trying to tell them he’ll gladly do as he’s told…

They scream orders at the hapless sod from every direction, along with questions they don’t give him time to answer, until eventually you end up asking: “Was there really any need for all that?”  We’re supposed to be rooting for the ‘good guys.' It’s hard to tell who’s who, these days.

Couldn’t it be scaled down, and replaced with a quiet arrest, when the suspect was off guard? Do you really NEED 15 big 'brave' coppers in riot gear – to arrest one man? 

I’m not saying go soft on crime – but these guys are bloody dangerous. Next thing you know, they’ve got a gun in their mits, and you’ve got another Jean Charles de Menezes in the news.

 Drop the SAS tactics; bring back more traditional style policing.

Why is this idea important?

Lets put an end to these macho, gung – ho, SAS wannabe’s wearing their black military gear, bursting into domestic properties, screaming “ON THE FLOOR!!!, ON THE FLOOR!!!” etc., getting all hyped up like sharks in a feeding frenzy, feeling really brave  – when all they’re confronted by is some pathetic, sleep-weary bag-head with less meat on his bones than on a butcher’s apron and who’s repeatedly trying to tell them he’ll gladly do as he’s told…

They scream orders at the hapless sod from every direction, along with questions they don’t give him time to answer, until eventually you end up asking: “Was there really any need for all that?”  We’re supposed to be rooting for the ‘good guys.' It’s hard to tell who’s who, these days.

Couldn’t it be scaled down, and replaced with a quiet arrest, when the suspect was off guard? Do you really NEED 15 big 'brave' coppers in riot gear – to arrest one man? 

I’m not saying go soft on crime – but these guys are bloody dangerous. Next thing you know, they’ve got a gun in their mits, and you’ve got another Jean Charles de Menezes in the news.

 Drop the SAS tactics; bring back more traditional style policing.

free fun and unity day

freedom to hold a festival of fun and unity on common land without the forced expense of police to oversee every  move. the expense is set at such a rate that the cost of policing the event makes it IMPOSSIBLE to hold, the local authorities have the easy no go can do if you cant afford the police. volunteers to be stewards with crowd control training would be invaluable as would volunteers with security or door training to oversee such events. litter picking is another of the L/A bug bares, if we leave the place cleaner than when we started that always  go down well. recycling properly all rubbish left and no cross contamination is also another plus. the greener the festival the better i.e oil instead of diesel run gennies, solar and wind powered lighting and all electrical needs. organisation is the key to be able to run this sucessfully. show we are responsible and polite citizens and we do have common law rights.  freedom is not a gift its a way of life until we live in a dictators black shadow . keeping the faith in sites like this is also key.  

Why is this idea important?

freedom to hold a festival of fun and unity on common land without the forced expense of police to oversee every  move. the expense is set at such a rate that the cost of policing the event makes it IMPOSSIBLE to hold, the local authorities have the easy no go can do if you cant afford the police. volunteers to be stewards with crowd control training would be invaluable as would volunteers with security or door training to oversee such events. litter picking is another of the L/A bug bares, if we leave the place cleaner than when we started that always  go down well. recycling properly all rubbish left and no cross contamination is also another plus. the greener the festival the better i.e oil instead of diesel run gennies, solar and wind powered lighting and all electrical needs. organisation is the key to be able to run this sucessfully. show we are responsible and polite citizens and we do have common law rights.  freedom is not a gift its a way of life until we live in a dictators black shadow . keeping the faith in sites like this is also key.  

Stop women being held in custody or arrested by male police officers

Following the conviction of Sergeant Mark Andrews, 37 for the assault on Pamela Somerville a petite 59 year old lady in the police custody suite. An incident in which Pamela has suffered permanent physical injury to her eyes and lasting psychological damage. Pamela who had not even received a parking ticket in her 59 years was arrested and brutalized by the police in a Police custody suit. Were it not for the Bravery of a Woman Police Officer who told a supervisor about the assault it would have not been brought to light. Many women claim they are raped and brutalized by male police offers in custody suits it is time to STOP vulnerable women being held in custody by male police officers.

Why is this idea important?

Following the conviction of Sergeant Mark Andrews, 37 for the assault on Pamela Somerville a petite 59 year old lady in the police custody suite. An incident in which Pamela has suffered permanent physical injury to her eyes and lasting psychological damage. Pamela who had not even received a parking ticket in her 59 years was arrested and brutalized by the police in a Police custody suit. Were it not for the Bravery of a Woman Police Officer who told a supervisor about the assault it would have not been brought to light. Many women claim they are raped and brutalized by male police offers in custody suits it is time to STOP vulnerable women being held in custody by male police officers.

Clarify laws regarding red lights and emergency services

The law should be clarified or amended to permit drivers/motorcyclists to perform manoeuvres at a red lights to allow emergency services to pass safely and expediently. This could be achieved by streamlining the appeal process for fines and points received due to running a red light running where there are the mitigating circumstances of the emergency vehicles.

Why is this idea important?

The law should be clarified or amended to permit drivers/motorcyclists to perform manoeuvres at a red lights to allow emergency services to pass safely and expediently. This could be achieved by streamlining the appeal process for fines and points received due to running a red light running where there are the mitigating circumstances of the emergency vehicles.

Right to photograph in public places

There has been a trend in recent years for police – especially in London – to stop residents and tourists taking photographs in public places, on the pretext of stopping terrorism. Some have even been made to hand over cameras, or storage cards, or to wipe the pictures in front of the officer. The idea that these actions could ever make the slightest difference for a real terrorist is laughable. It is a complete nonsense, that makes those stopped with their cameras feel like they are in a police state behind the Iron Curtain in the 50's. The law should be clarified to ensure that no officer can stop a person taking photos in public places, per se.

Why is this idea important?

There has been a trend in recent years for police – especially in London – to stop residents and tourists taking photographs in public places, on the pretext of stopping terrorism. Some have even been made to hand over cameras, or storage cards, or to wipe the pictures in front of the officer. The idea that these actions could ever make the slightest difference for a real terrorist is laughable. It is a complete nonsense, that makes those stopped with their cameras feel like they are in a police state behind the Iron Curtain in the 50's. The law should be clarified to ensure that no officer can stop a person taking photos in public places, per se.

ALLOW PARENTS TO CONTEST EMERGENCY PROTECTION ORDERS

Social workers can too easily obtain emergency protection orders without the knowledge or presence of parents who then have their children removed without having had any opportunity to oppose or contest such removals.

Ex parte hearings ,meaning without the opposing party present  result too often in a magistrate granting powers of removal to social workers purely out of caution even when there is little evidence to justify such drastic action; Such orders only last 2-4 days but that is enough to traumatise young children from life when they have been dragged out of bed late at night by a posse of social workers backed up by policemen in uniform.

Parents should always be offered the opportunity to contest such orders before they are made.

Brutal parents who are alcoholic,bullies, or drug addicts are most unlikely to contest in such cases but parents who are respectable but may have very minor defects would certainly oppose the abrupt "confiscation" of their children if they were allowed to and I believe they should be given the chance!

Why is this idea important?

Social workers can too easily obtain emergency protection orders without the knowledge or presence of parents who then have their children removed without having had any opportunity to oppose or contest such removals.

Ex parte hearings ,meaning without the opposing party present  result too often in a magistrate granting powers of removal to social workers purely out of caution even when there is little evidence to justify such drastic action; Such orders only last 2-4 days but that is enough to traumatise young children from life when they have been dragged out of bed late at night by a posse of social workers backed up by policemen in uniform.

Parents should always be offered the opportunity to contest such orders before they are made.

Brutal parents who are alcoholic,bullies, or drug addicts are most unlikely to contest in such cases but parents who are respectable but may have very minor defects would certainly oppose the abrupt "confiscation" of their children if they were allowed to and I believe they should be given the chance!

Probationary citizen status

Asylum seekers etc… should be required to sign up to a new class of citizenship, namely a probationer.The granting of full UK citizenship is discretionary after a minimum period of 5 years and would require the assent of the police (with no right of appeal) . As a Probationer, they will understand that shoudl they be convicted of any serious crime that their rights to UK citizenship would be forever revoked and that they (and their family unit) would be immediately deported, never to be allowed back into the UK. We should take both their fingerprints and DNA and store indefinitely.

Why is this idea important?

Asylum seekers etc… should be required to sign up to a new class of citizenship, namely a probationer.The granting of full UK citizenship is discretionary after a minimum period of 5 years and would require the assent of the police (with no right of appeal) . As a Probationer, they will understand that shoudl they be convicted of any serious crime that their rights to UK citizenship would be forever revoked and that they (and their family unit) would be immediately deported, never to be allowed back into the UK. We should take both their fingerprints and DNA and store indefinitely.

harrasment and what it can do

to get rid of this silly law of harasment ,if you even glare at someone now this can be called harasment , its got totally out of hand,i reported someone for a crime and when i was interviewed was tolled in no uncertan terms that if i was to mention it again i could be prosecuted for harasment,,so much for reporting crime these days

Why is this idea important?

to get rid of this silly law of harasment ,if you even glare at someone now this can be called harasment , its got totally out of hand,i reported someone for a crime and when i was interviewed was tolled in no uncertan terms that if i was to mention it again i could be prosecuted for harasment,,so much for reporting crime these days

Restoration of the Right to Silence

Please re-instate the right to silence of anyone charged with an offence. It would seem in today’s society we are heading inexorably towards a situation where the police (and other bodies with similar powers) can do no wrong. Whilst they are placed on a metaphorical pedestal, even when in the public perception they have gravely erred, and there always seems to be some reason why they cannot be charged or there is an alleged justification for their actions, it is a completely different ballgame when members of the general public are concerned. Our rights are being eroded and the police allowed every opportunity to erode them further such that DNA samples can be taken when someone is arrested for even the most trivial offence; e.g. taking innocent photographs can now land you in trouble. Time expired records are still not being destroyed as directed by the European Court.
The ending of the right to silence was in many ways the precursor to this gradual erosion of our civil liberties and it should be restored forthwith. With the balance having been tilted in favour of the police at the expense of those civil liberties for so long now it is high time that those facing charge for any offence are legally entitled to once again not prejudice themselves and be entitled to a right of silence; it is an inalienable human right. If the police have enough evidence to charge someone with an offence then the right to silence should not be an issue for them because the evidence should be compelling. If the police have an issue with the right to silence it can only be because they cannot bring sufficient evidence to bear on a case and have to rely on weight not being attached to something the accused brings to the courts later on.
If the police can get away with acts which are plainly caught on video and flashed around the world; then surely the great British public are entitled to the right of silence when accused of an offence. It should then be up to the police or other relevant authority to prove them guilty beyond any reasonable doubt by using their own investigative skills and techniques.
 

Why is this idea important?

Please re-instate the right to silence of anyone charged with an offence. It would seem in today’s society we are heading inexorably towards a situation where the police (and other bodies with similar powers) can do no wrong. Whilst they are placed on a metaphorical pedestal, even when in the public perception they have gravely erred, and there always seems to be some reason why they cannot be charged or there is an alleged justification for their actions, it is a completely different ballgame when members of the general public are concerned. Our rights are being eroded and the police allowed every opportunity to erode them further such that DNA samples can be taken when someone is arrested for even the most trivial offence; e.g. taking innocent photographs can now land you in trouble. Time expired records are still not being destroyed as directed by the European Court.
The ending of the right to silence was in many ways the precursor to this gradual erosion of our civil liberties and it should be restored forthwith. With the balance having been tilted in favour of the police at the expense of those civil liberties for so long now it is high time that those facing charge for any offence are legally entitled to once again not prejudice themselves and be entitled to a right of silence; it is an inalienable human right. If the police have enough evidence to charge someone with an offence then the right to silence should not be an issue for them because the evidence should be compelling. If the police have an issue with the right to silence it can only be because they cannot bring sufficient evidence to bear on a case and have to rely on weight not being attached to something the accused brings to the courts later on.
If the police can get away with acts which are plainly caught on video and flashed around the world; then surely the great British public are entitled to the right of silence when accused of an offence. It should then be up to the police or other relevant authority to prove them guilty beyond any reasonable doubt by using their own investigative skills and techniques.
 

Anti-Social Behaviour – Diary Sheets

Abolish the need to keep formal ASB diary sheets for use as evidence against perpatrators.  E-Mails should be acceptable.  Firstly, it saves money (less paper and stamps). Secondly we have been completing diary sheets for 6 years now without anything much happening as a result to combat ASB in our neighbourhood wo what exeactly is the point of them?

Neither the Police nor any other organisations appears bothered when people have noisy parties etc at weekends, most authorities are shut and by the time you get to Monday the problem is over and you have had another sleepless weekend!

A call to the Police, Crimestoppers or any other involved organisation such as local authority or Housing provider should be cross-matchable and traceable.  We need a central point of contact and a database for noise abatement and/or Anti-Social Behaviours.  We need someone to contact every day of the week to help stop ASB, not jsut weekdays!

Why is this idea important?

Abolish the need to keep formal ASB diary sheets for use as evidence against perpatrators.  E-Mails should be acceptable.  Firstly, it saves money (less paper and stamps). Secondly we have been completing diary sheets for 6 years now without anything much happening as a result to combat ASB in our neighbourhood wo what exeactly is the point of them?

Neither the Police nor any other organisations appears bothered when people have noisy parties etc at weekends, most authorities are shut and by the time you get to Monday the problem is over and you have had another sleepless weekend!

A call to the Police, Crimestoppers or any other involved organisation such as local authority or Housing provider should be cross-matchable and traceable.  We need a central point of contact and a database for noise abatement and/or Anti-Social Behaviours.  We need someone to contact every day of the week to help stop ASB, not jsut weekdays!

Attestation of police officers

Police officers having completed their training, are required to make an attestation i.e. to swear an oath to be impartial and fair to all they deal with and to serve the HM the Queen. This oath is taken before a magistrate and also applies to Special Constables who are unpaid volunteers. Often for Specials attestations there is a charming ceremony with family and friends attending to watch a family member make this important oath. It is taken very seriously and only after it has taaen place do officers receive their all important warrant cards. The event is held on police premises and a local magistrate carries out their office with appropriate dignity; no cost is incurred.

In 2009 a petty piece of legistation was introduced which requires all attestations to be made and organised through the magistrates courts and a charge levied of £50 plus £10 per officer. The sums involved are so small as to be nothing but a nuisance to both the courts and the police. The money does not go to the magistrate who carries out the ceremony as they too are unpaid volunteers. This petty rule applies to all officers even those transferred from other forces. The charming ceremonies have to go as the courts decide where it shall take place and when.

Why is this idea important?

Police officers having completed their training, are required to make an attestation i.e. to swear an oath to be impartial and fair to all they deal with and to serve the HM the Queen. This oath is taken before a magistrate and also applies to Special Constables who are unpaid volunteers. Often for Specials attestations there is a charming ceremony with family and friends attending to watch a family member make this important oath. It is taken very seriously and only after it has taaen place do officers receive their all important warrant cards. The event is held on police premises and a local magistrate carries out their office with appropriate dignity; no cost is incurred.

In 2009 a petty piece of legistation was introduced which requires all attestations to be made and organised through the magistrates courts and a charge levied of £50 plus £10 per officer. The sums involved are so small as to be nothing but a nuisance to both the courts and the police. The money does not go to the magistrate who carries out the ceremony as they too are unpaid volunteers. This petty rule applies to all officers even those transferred from other forces. The charming ceremonies have to go as the courts decide where it shall take place and when.

Police Training to be Independently managed and funded.

Police initial training should be managed within the UK university system and should be at various levels up to degree level. No prospective applicant to the UK police service should be considered until they have successfully passed a course. The training should be funded on the same basis as University Courses and loans for training should be repaid over their service. Detective Candidates should be direct entry following separate training as should other distinct police disciplines. Transfers between disciplines should be possible but officers should fund their own training either directly or on a loan as initial training. The entire current police training role should be managed by the University and adult education system. 

Why is this idea important?

Police initial training should be managed within the UK university system and should be at various levels up to degree level. No prospective applicant to the UK police service should be considered until they have successfully passed a course. The training should be funded on the same basis as University Courses and loans for training should be repaid over their service. Detective Candidates should be direct entry following separate training as should other distinct police disciplines. Transfers between disciplines should be possible but officers should fund their own training either directly or on a loan as initial training. The entire current police training role should be managed by the University and adult education system. 

Return the Police to a ‘force’ not a ‘service’

 

The only way to stop criminals is to stop giving them leeway and to actually DO something (harsher punishments, more power to police) productive.

The change in the name of the "Police Force" to "Police Service" ten or so years ago ironically reflects the 'usefulness' of the Police. The Police need to be a force, they are there to uphold the law, which, in some cases, requires force.

Why is this idea important?

 

The only way to stop criminals is to stop giving them leeway and to actually DO something (harsher punishments, more power to police) productive.

The change in the name of the "Police Force" to "Police Service" ten or so years ago ironically reflects the 'usefulness' of the Police. The Police need to be a force, they are there to uphold the law, which, in some cases, requires force.