The idea
Ban people modifying their cars and bikes to have louder exhausts than the ones they come with. There is no reason what so ever for these people to have loud exhausts apart from misguided vanity, yet the general public have to put up with their right to peace and quiet being removed by a few idiots. Ban this pointless modification culture now, as I'm sure it will only get worse.
Why is it important?
This is important because there should be a right to go about your day (and night) without anti-social noise ruining your relaxation time.
these things need sorting,i have neighbours who incidentley rent the property and dont own it,so probably dont care!! each vehicle they own has in some way had a stupid exhaust fitted to it.i can see the reasoning behind it for a highly modified vehicle that doesnt do that much mileage,but for a standard vehicle it doesnt make any difference in power output,just annoys the hell out of the local residents.this is also a problem as i have a young child who upon hearing these vehcles runs into the house in tears and it is also having an efect on her sleep.annoyed yes i am,this needs to be sorted!!!!!
5 GALLON OF SOMETHING THAT WILL BURN – POUR ON STAND WELL BACK AND WAIT FOR THE CAR TO START-IT WILL NOT HAPPEN TWICE-I BET!!
So you would commit a crime and damage someones vehicle when they havent even commited a crime? Thug.
it’s people like you mate that want sorting out
I totally agree and wish these loud exhausts would ‘dissapear’ they are annoying and provide little or no object other than to annoy. I have come to the conclusion that some folk are just desparate for attention and this is one way they get it. I have one of our neighbours daughters who has one of these noisy exhausts. I call the police every time and will continue to do so. I have since learned that due to the volume of complaints about these ‘anti-social’ exhausts then the police are pulling these ‘kids’ in and testing the descibel rating. I think it’s 82 db but dont know if thats at idle or being driven. Either way I want them banned! I have had too many sleepless nights by the neighbours teenage daughter whom thinks its great to annoy everyone, and drink and drive coming home at 2 in the morning. We are now quite active and have had some sucess with blocking the road and other misdemeaner’s which mean she won’t dare creep out any later than 10.30 I am going for a total ban! Anyone want to join me to stamp out these morons whom care for no-one but their selfish selves??
Buses and lorries are loud? U aint moaning about them, this as a passion for some people, imagine if i took ur hobbie away? Would u be happy, naa u wouldnt. Kids a scared of most loud noises, part of growing up, so get over it
I couldn’t agree more
Totally agree, motorcycles (and for some reason especially Harleys) are obnoxious, the setoff car alarms, wake kids up and if you happen to be sitting say at a pavement cafe nearby almost deafen you.
It seems they are immune to MOT laws and the police dont care. Why aren’t more of them ticketed?
Dont give me the excuse of “they need to be loud to be safe”, if you want something safe don’t ride a motorbike!
They arnt ticketed because thats how the majority of superbikes and Harleys are released from the factory which means they have been approved for the road.
are you stupid? harleys sound like that when standard. Some eegit above also mentioned that it has no effect on power output. your a cyclist i assume because you have no idea what the hell your talking about. there is a legal limit and a car will not pass the mot if it exceeds this limit. therefore the car you see driving past is more than likely legal. just becuase the exhaust note is fruitier they are not that much louder than other environmental contributers eg buses bin lorries , vehicles that operate at anti social hours. get facts right before commenting on an alien subject to yourself. fools
Is the law still the same for normal vehicles if the exhaust is blowing you fail your MOT.If this is still law then why can you get away with a big bore when really IT makes the same bloody noise only louder.They should fail the MOT surely
Because a blowing exhaust has a hole in it and is therfore damaged where a bigbore exhaust does not. Its nothing to do with how loud.
reason it fails if blowing is if it was blowing in the centre for example this could allow poisonous gasses to seep into the vehicle dumb ass
No need at all for loud exhausts. The kids on tiny 2 strokes are even worse than the Harleys. If a law exists it should be upheld. Get these people off the road.
There isnt a law for noise as such. Thats how super cars get away with it. You ever heard how load a ferrari is? They are legal.
two strokes? omfg shut up mate. Im a keen motorcycle and car enthusiast and when i was 16 i had a two stroke motorcycle cos unlike the majority of people clogging up this forum with uneducated crap, i had a full time college course and a job. not all of us are lucky enough to sit around all day and rely on bus travel.
I agree entirely. Many of these exhausts are defective and illegal but noone seems to do anything about it. Its pure selfishness on the part of the vehicle owners. In the case of motorcyles they can’t hear the exhaust through their helmit anyway and you can’t see their registration number. It definitely needs sorting out.
Better ban all those supercars then…
This is a good idea. Anything that is loud that could be quiet, NEEDS to be quiet. Motorcycles, modified car exhausts, car stereos. If no one but the driver could hear the sound, I wouldn’t mind, let them become deaf because they’re idiots. I often hear these people saying that alot more things make noise like trucks, construction sites, police / firemen sirens and we don’t complain about it. Well, yes, it’s not fun hearing that, however they have a constructive goal in mind, unlike the loud idiots that only have a destructive mind.
It’s very sad when you have to resort to law because common sense has disappeared from the surface of the earth.
I WOULD NOT RESORT TO THE USE OF THE LAW-TRY ME.
Again. Thug.
Bad idea people should have the choice to modify there cars if they want and who’s to say that there not high performance? Anything can e high performance with a bit of know how, bike exhausts are a different story they need to be fairly free flowing and are designed in the majority of cases to enable a small capacity engine to produce a decent about of power.
Patrick, the subject is to ban LOUD vehicle exhausts. You are free to get an aftermarket exhaust that IS NOT loud.
I’m not sure what high performance means in your case. I don’t see formula-1 cars on the streets, yet they’re vehicles on 4 wheels as well. I don’t think high performance will give you any more performance on a normal street than a car that is not high performance. If you have a race car, uhh… keep it on a race track? not the streets. Thank you.
You clearly do not understand the way a vehicle works. In order to increase flow (and in addition to other modifications, power) exhausts need to be larger in diameter and remove restrictions, it does not matter which vehicle it is applied to.
Who are you to tell somebody they don’t have the right to free will? I.e in this case, upgrading the performance of thier vehicle, no matter what it is.
They pass as infrequently as an emergency vehicle or lorry, so just put up with it!
Instead, we should focus on and penalise the individual who is causing the nuisance, as it is them who chose to rev the engine at antisocial levels in built up areas.
u can buy a buggati veyron, very loud and faster than a formula 1 car, they are road legal. Im with Patrick. I think u people just want something to moan about, clearly nothing else ud rather do but take away people hobbies and interests
Are you serious? We’re “Anti-Social” for having loud exhaust? I enjoy the custom Flowmaster Super 40s on my truck, as I enjoy the loud and deep boom from the exhaust. I don’t care what you want. Did you pay for my truck, did you pay for the exhaust? It’s my money, I’ll use it on I want. If you can’t stand the sound, put some earplugs on, its not like we rev our engine or sit idle on the street for more than 2 mins.
All who are opposed to loud exhausts GET THE FUCK OVER IT and STOP Turning this country into a controlling Nanny State. It is not up to you to justify whether or not we can enjoy the fruits of our vehicles. A Loud exhaust is simply in ones opinion a beautiful and natural sound of combustion. Just because Airplanes, Helicopters, Trains, and Semis are loud to an extent in which in my opinion are intruding of my peaceful setting. should they be Illegal and Banned and complained about??? NO… and if its really that fucking big of a problem and you have so much money, buy some noise cancelling headphones or find somewhere else to live! ITS CALLED FREEDOM!
THAT IS A WELL CONSTRUCTED, THOUGHT NUMBING COMMENT TRY TO MAKE THAT KIND OF NOISE NEAR MY 2.6 MILLION HOME AND I WILL DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN ASK YOU TO GO AWAY, GO ON I DARE YOU.
I dont disagree with modifying cars or what ever else people do, but respect for others wishes should be applied. people have different tastes and hobbies and this does not mean someone who dislikes your hobby of modifying should shut up. If gardening was massively loud (ridiculous I know) but as an example then Im sure you would have a problem with it when that person is out in the garden everyday. Round my area people do sit around idle and rev engines on street corners during the day and after 11pm (UK). They are in considerate people but the others are keen enthusiast in their hobby. Respect is what its down to, being obnoxious on a forum or Facebook is stupid and no one cares and that goes for either party. I personally dont like loud exhausts when Im at home working as it goes right through the house and you can hear some streets away. It is anti social unless your at a car event.
I don’t think anyone cares how much you pay for your noise-making toys. I don’t want to be subject to unnecessary noise when I’m in my own home. Why don’t YOU get a CD player and record very loud sounds on it and listen to them with earphones? And if you want to “feel” your noise, just put some massaging mat or something on your vehicle’s driving seat. Problem solved.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that people want quiet? 2 mins is a long time, and when there are hundreds of you on the road, it makes many minutes.
You are free to respect people’s right for quiet. Me being quiet doesn’t impede on your right to make noise, however you making noise impedes on my right for quiet. You should get a more constructive hobby than generating high-decibel noises. Ever think of knitting or making scaled models?
I am so tired people who do not respect others. I mean I am so tires of these people it makes me mad. The system allows these lesser evolved humanoids to modify their appliances to one end only – their vanity. And what is worst, most of these people do not have a permanent job or a mortgage. If they were more occupied paying for their future residence then maybe there wouldn’t be sufficient funds left over to spend on useless shit that offends other people.
Matt, this is the sort of comment I’d expect from someone who likes to think they know about the subject but actually hasn’t a clue. Like most people, I can’t stand those who drive around with loud exhausts just for the sake of it, but have you ever considered that there are some people like myself who actually tune cars and go on competitive/none competitive track days for a hobby? We are certainly not ‘lesser evolved humanoids’ as you put it. We may not all be able to afford £12k+ a year for a dedicated race car but that shouldn’t stop someone from enjoying and taking part in motorsport. I do have an aftermarket exhaust system as the engine is built to an extent which justifies it, however mine is specifically designed to be street legal and so is barely louder than a stock exhaust when driving around public roads. This set up did cost a fair bit more than a full N1 spec race system and it is still more restrictive but it can be done. I just find some peoples ignorance sickening and I get it all the time just because 2 of my cars happen to be stripped out with roll cages and look modified. People automatically assume that I must be a boy racer which couldn’t be further from the truth
i would agree until some twat like MATT comes along takin the piss out of others while saying I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO DONT RESPECT OTHERS and then goes on to say THESE LESSER EVOLVED HUMANOIDS maybe you should look at yourself m8 you cant even make a point because you contridict yourself go back to sleep you prick
Isn’t it really, really funny.
Only TWO people replied ‘for’ loud exhausts. One of them couldn’t spell, and the other had to use the word ‘fuck’ in their message.
Says it all, doesn’t it?
NOW YOU HAVE DONE IT IS 3
whats also very funny is the fact that the majority of the forum is against modified cars. have you not noticed that not a single person has any education on the subject? its all assumptions and opinions. NOT FACT. In reply to your comment there is some cave man saying i dare you to make noise outside my 2.6 million pound house. Over compensation for lack of man hood? I own 2 modified cars (cost me in excess of 75K) and i am also a professional cage fighter. Would you like to call me a young chav or thug? I run my own accountancy firm at the age of 25 and i also play bowls at county and national level. NOT EVERYONE FALLS INTO THE SAME CATEGORY> STEREOTYPICAL GRUMPY OLD MEN. Hilarious thing is that the 700bhp skyline is a ridiculous car in your opinion but you just love your old mg’s or jaguars(which probably have been modified, are less than likely maintained correctly as noone on here has a clue about cars and to be honest probably louder)
Yeah all these people have no idea, ‘oh hes a yob coz his cars loud’, i happened to have a loud car, i dont drive it badly, i enjoy driving it. Ashley i admire u, wish i had a skyline lol
I think there’s a lot of fuss about nothing here.
The annoying thing is when your having a nice pint and there’s a family in the pub and a child starts screaming (110db) that’s louder than an exhaust! But no one says anything about this.
Carry on watchin’ yer telly and prunin’ yer plants, but don’t forget keep them kids quiet coz it could damage your hearing!
This is a pathetic comment. Kids can’t be controlled, after all they’re kids who have little knowledge, im sure you screamed when you were a child. Exhausts on the other hand are an option which can be controlled hence the reason why no one wants the irritating noise. The only ones who require the noise of an exhaust are those people who want to look cool but really you all must be sole losers who require the help of that irritating noise to let the world know you exist. To be honest no one cares you exist if you’re going to have that noise around!
Understandabely kids can’t be controlled, however when I was three I never frequented pubs or working mens clubs!
More often than not its not the exhaust – a modern 600cc sportsbike will rev to 14,000 rpm.
And if no one cares we exist then I honestly don’t see the problem… no one knew I existed today when a driver wasn’t paying attention and ran in the back of me.
However some people that ride motorcycles myself included like to try and stand out to avoid these situations. This may include wearing reflective clothing, using dipped lights in the daytime or taking the baffle out of your exhaust to be heard.
Children can be controlled its called good parenting. Also any parent that takes a baby or young child to s pub is not a fit parent and therefore much lower in society and SCUMMIER than a modified car enthusiast
to say scummier about anyone is ridiculous. Do you know them, their background, their life, their problems. No is the answer you are looking for. Come back when you have learnt how to talk with respect.
Even putting aside the safety arguement for loud exhausts on motorbikes (which is a /very/ strong arguement, it makes a noticeable difference to cars cutting across you in traffic), you’re still left with the arguement that a lot of people enjoy the sound of good engines.
Sure there are a lot of 1.1 fiesta’s with noisy exhausts on, but that’s just youngsters trying to imitate the cars they like but cant afford. I know for a fact though if I hear a big engined bike or sports/classic car come through a village or into a pub rumbling the ground, I’d be straight out to have a look and a chat.
People take pleasure in vehicles, and the sounds they make are a large part of that. I know my dad used to say in his motorbiking years you could accurately tell what bike was coming down the road by the sound it was making. Noise and exhaust gas regulations are making that a thing of the past, and most cars are very quiet these days, so leave the few of us that still love engines alone with our rare pleasures.
I have no problem with your “rare pleasure” as long as it does not disturb others.
It is selfish and quite frankly shows one is rather ignorant by justifying a hobby from one’s own perspective with no consideration for others.
Hypocrite. By forcing your opinions and views on others, as if you’re the only person who’s view is valid, make you selfish and quite frankly rather ignorant.
What are ur hobbies then? Let me judge them and try and take them way!
It is not pointless modifying an exhaust improves performance and mpg. adding mpg means saving the earth.
I flipping hate those small peckard kids driving by my house setting off my car alarm every night with their exhaust! Pretty soon I think I’m goin buy myself a rifle
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You can report it on http://www.boohoohoo.com Get over yourself.
I hate you lol, get over it, ill take away your hobbies, bet ull love that. A hate moaning people like you, judgemental and have nothing better to do!
The person/person’s who started this topic has down syndrome!
Just my 2 cents!!
To people like Dave wo are reactionary lunatics , who desperately need psychological help , some of us who dont live in 2.6 million home cant afford to run 2 or 3 cars so my hill-climb car that I spent 3 years building was also my daily drive it was based on a 106 rallye , so probably not a “performance car” in most people view but the race tuned engine and exhaust was quite loud but as I said I dont have the luxury of being able to carry out my hobby and owning loads of cars, so before everyone gets all like Dave here I think each case would have to be judged on its own merits. However I agree things like Harley’s are ridiculous.
I agree 100% with you, exactly the point I was trying to make
So each case deserves to be judged on its own merits? Yet all things like Harleys are ridiculous? Doesn’t that strike you as hypocritical? It’s ok for you to be loud, but not others who choose a different mode of transport? I’m all for a reasoned argument, but yours is slightly flawed, don’t you think.
I have a sticker above my exhaust, says “haters gonna hate”
I’m 19 and I pay £3000 insurance for my 1.2 Clio, so add that up…£2400 for the car £3000 for insurance add mot and tax we’re talking almost 6k that I’ve saved working while studying…
If the system wasn’t so broken I’d have spent that 6k on a performance car but seems I get bullshit insurance for no reason other than my date of birth i’ll turn my little clio into a car that looks / sounds like a performance. Vanity, yeah but it’s the insurance companies vanity for taking a stupid amounts of money off me for a thing that’s a basic req to drive..
I happen to own a 650 Daytona and a u.s camaro….go ahead ban them..
people can still be loud by revving an engine on a 1.2 poppa engine..it does no make one difference what so ever
Modifying cars is a hobbie a passion for me and a lot of others .who are you to say that it should be band ? Go and find something else to moan about you sour old farts !
Well said, its a hobbie and passion of mine and they cant take that away
Funny how my standard ford focus makes more noise than most of these “modified” cars that you’re talking about… and that passes all tests and was only made 2 years ago!
Learn the law before you start quoting it…
I like this comment, I have the same thing. I have a 2000 Honda Civic Type R which I use as my daily driver and to attend track days and an amateur competition series run at a local sprint circuit. This car has a Spoon race developed engine (which is blueprinted to be used in Japan in the Super Taikyu enduance race series). I paid over £7, 000 to have this engine imported over here. Its a full race spec engine and will rev to 9800rpm but I use a Spoon Street exhaust (as the name implies it is designed for street use). I have recently bought another project car which is a totally standard 1989 Mazda MX-5. Under 4000rpm the Mazdas standard exhaust is MUCH louder than my Civic with a race buit engine. Its all about the driver, not ‘loud exhausts’
Loud exhausts save lives. If you can hear the vehicle coming, its a good thing. You won’t be petitioning when you walk out in the road not having heard that electric powered eco-car and get run over!
I think that people should have a right to modify their vehicles, but I’m not entirely sure you have a right to annoy others with your noise. I just bought a Harley that the previous owner modified, obviously without any knowledge, and it’s so loud it’s annoying, so I’m sorting it out. It’ll still be modified, sound like a bike should, but won’t bug others. Incidentally, loud exhausts don’t save lives. I work in a 999 ambulance and you wouldn’t believe the amount of car and truck drivers who pull in front of us or fail to notice us, even with lights and sirens.
Alot of people who own performance cars with free flowing exhaust (that as a result of being free flowing are loud) normally are fully aware of how loud their exhausts are and the impact it has on others. Now it may not be any consolation to the people who want peice and quiet but majority of them purposely drive at low revs in built up areas to keep noise down. I own a rotary engined car which i have modified and tuned myself using all street legal parts, and spent alot of money and time on, the car requires warming up before driving, i live in a residential area, if i want to go out after 7pm, i drive my car round the corner to an industrial estate where i let it warm up and quite often if i come home late ill park it in the industrial estate as it has a turbo timer on (which allows the engine to run on after key is taken out the ignition to allow oil to circulate and cool), i then pick it up the following morning. I understand your point, but equally there is alot of other hobbies out there you dont hate on that make noise and impact the environment but becuase you percieve modifying cars to be anti-social and for dimwits you discriminate it, modifying cars is a hobby that some are very passionate about, brings alot of money into the economy, has resulted in alot of the safety and environmental innovations on your cars today and has alot of well educated people involved in designing/tuning/modifying etc and you should take that into consideration before saying “ban it” although i am all for tighter control on non street legal parts and parts used on vehicles not intended for which i believe is part of new EU proposal.
F***ing deal with it half u tossers probs dont even have jobs and are moaning because it interrupts ur jeremy kyle sh*t get over the exhausts it saves bikers lives every day
what a bunch of uptight a holes. Whatever happened to freedom of rights? I have ridden bikes for the last 38 years and the biggest life saver has been loud pipes. Car drivers are oblivious to bikes at the best of times but when they are scooting along with their stereo blasting the only thing that draws their attention to a bike in close proximity is loud cans. You may not like the sound of loud bikes but I hate the sound of screaming brats on a sunday morning even more. Each to their own. Oh, and if you do ever try to set fire to one of my bikes do not under estimate how far many bikers would go to protect their bikes. I would have no hesitation in doing time for it so be warned.
f**k you with your two point six million pound gaff = why dont you say where you live give us your post code and see who is laughing when you get 10 crackhead niggers tying you up ! if i was you i would watch what you say ! money aint everything and can be easily taken away ! ha
There are some who simply attach a “Bucket” to the tailpipe of the exhaust, for no reason, other than to draw attention to themselves. However, as has already been pointed out, more efficient exhausts will be more noisy, since silencing creates a restriction and that reduces power (Thus vehicles designed or modified, to give more power, will often become more noisy). Anyone, who knows anything about engines, can tell the notes of what is just noisy, to something that is potent.
I am not sure what the rules are, relating to road vehicles and MOTs but road going vehicles, used in motorsport, are subject to noise limits (Indeed even racing cars are silenced in many cases; F1 being an exception).
To pass a law, banning such a modification from standard, would be the thin end of the wedge and there are many degrees of defining “Standard”. I am sure the motor manufacturers would love to ban non standard cars, as you could argue, that anything fitted with a pattern part, is non standard (And so once the manufacturers stop producing spares, for a given vehicle, it can no longer be standard). The classic car sector within the UK is worth a great deal of money to the economy and such a law would damage this.
The boy racers are a menace but banning loud exhausts is not the way to tackle them (Surely having such loud sound systems distracts them from driving). In many cases, when you peel back the plastic appendages and filler, there you find an ill maintained wreck. You don’t need more rules to tackle boy racers (Or any other bad drivers, such at the aggressive BMW or Audi driver jammed up your exhaust); you just need to enforce the laws we already have.
Think of this…. 4 years ago I was smashed off my motorcycle on the M60, I driver pulled across me because they did not look (or hear me? – which was one of their excuses I may add) because of that crash I lost a career in Quantity Surveying and estimating because I can no longer work on complex mathematical problems or concentrate for long periods of time on mathematical tasks without getting excruciating pains in my head, due to the frontal lobe brain damage I sustained when i stopped on my head!
The Policemen said, you could do with a louder exhaust mate! I now have a loud exhaust and no one has pulled out on me since. and if they try I rev the nuts off it! and they soon see me….but still, not being “heard” ruined a thirty grand year career and at 27 I now work in a factory. So not all of us with loud exhausts have them because of vanity or ignorance, I have mine because it makes me safer and the bonus is I get better mileage out of the tank because the performance of the engine is better.
and cars it’s not needed but on motorcycles
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES!!!
there should be a law that cardrivers should pay attention for a change
Things like this make me happy that my exhaust sets off car alarms. Most of you are so retarded i wont even start on you. They do give power there safer because kids that you dont look after properly hear us coming when they are playing in the middle of the road. A child has been run down my way by these so called peaceful quiet cars you frickin idiots. I hope one day one of you are behind me in traffic
Modifications to car and motorcycle exhausts that increase noise are illegal and have been for many years. The police do not bother to enforce this as they do not consider it to be important. Go to countries like Germany and you will find these laws are enforced and yet they still seem to have a lower rate of motorcycle related incidents than we do, could it be that they drive better?
Possibly the stupidest idea I have heard for a long time, how can a car exhaust ruin people’s relaxation time, tv’s are loud, babies crying are loud, people on the phone are loud, im sure someone driving past with a loud exhaust mod will only create an ‘annoying’ sound for about 10 seconds, then its gone. stop moaning .
This petition is totally dim-witted and suffers from a clear lack of knowledge from the original author. Yes, there are nuisance drivers out there who chuck a baked bean tin on their exhaust and think that somehow a louder car equates to a better car, but for the large majority an enlarged exhaust exit is part of an improved exhaust and airflow system, thus increasing the performance of the car dramatically, often releasing power that is stifled by the manufacturer to assist with the various emissions laws in other territories where the car is sold (a ‘one shoe fits all’ approach).
If you have an issue with your neighbour then I suggest you ask them to be more considerate when accelerating down your street, but do not tar everyone with the same brush and at least get your facts straight before trying to petition government to make draconian changes to the law to appease your cowardly nature.
I suggest instead that we ban all the joeys who drive 40mph everywhere and those who speed up/swerve when being overtaken
There’s a lot of anger and intolerance on this thread, and everyone’s point would be made a lot better if there were fewer insults. I live on a main road, and there are lots of ‘boy racers’ with loud exhausts. It’s not the nicest noise, but during the day, meh, I live on a main road. They want to modify their cars, their prerogative. However, rights are not unlimited, and it would be nice if those above endorsing so vehemently their freedom to do as they pleased considered the impact of their actions on others. Noisy cars during the day are one thing – as has been noted, they aren’t the only noise around. But, is it necessary to make that noise at 12, 1, 2 or 3 in the morning? I don’t think this is necessarily an issue for legal regulation, but some thought on both sides would be welcome.
I am an enthusiast on cars and car modifications, I find some if not most of the comments on this topic to be a moot point, 98% of all drivers who choose to modify there car do so within regulations and without damaging the societal population, Bigger bore exhausts free up the gasses through the pipes allowing more flow and increased performance, if you didn’t know that maybe you should embark on some research before voicing your opinion, I have encountered one or 2 vehicles in my years as a driver/modifier that have been offensively loud but I’ve had to go looking for them, these cars are a rarity and unless you are living in a hugely built up area with a load of younger generations not to mention the older generation car enthusiasts then you should not be impending judgement on them for their choice of hobby. Most car enthusiasts are approachable and if you speak with them in a calm manner about your problem you could easily come to some arrangement, the proof I have seen so far is that none of you seem willing to do that. Car enthusiasts will never disappear so it might be a good idea to learn to get along with them and maybe try to work together so you both can enjoy your favorite pastimes be it loud exhausts or sitting in silence.
I have long enjoyed the sounds from cars such as TVRs and Lotus. With the increasingly stringent new car laws I find that to maximise enjoyment of the cars (in addition to increasing pedestrian safety) it is almost necessary to make some modifications. I don’t believe this causes any real nuisance to anyone. Of course, sound is a very subjective nuisance. I would much rather have the sound of the local church bells removed. These cause me endless annoyance both for their excessively primitive ‘music’ and the reminder of the popularity of delusional belief systems.
It seems that, at best, the focus upon motorist issues is a poor allocation of resources.
There are already sufficient laws to tackle anti-social behaviour in cars within the existing legal framework.
I’m tired of handing over > 50% of my income into mindless inefficient schemes that benefit almost no one. Can’t the Government please focus on aligning market values with social utility. Can’t the focus be on improving life for everyone by properly aligning goals and incentives? There are so many of us working so damned hard in all sorts of random directions divergent from our true goals. Shouldn’t Government be about assisting with the organisation of individual efforts into positive-sum games?
I don’t understand the point of these stupid things on the exhausts! Are they meant to make the cars sound like an expensive sports car, because trust me when I here one fly past my house I don’t think a £200k sports car has just fled up the road!!!
To those who claim we are just moaning. Some idiot flies up our road every morning at 6:30am and the noise is horrific, and as our bedroom is at the front it’s really disturbing. You may think we’re being miserable but noise is a major problem and can cause some people stress and when it is caused by something as useless as a modified exhaust its is extremely fraustrating! BAN THEM NOW!!!
Loud mufflers are what they are – LOUD. Firstly, they disturb the peace. They are annoying people that are driving by, that are in their homes, and they have no use other than to show off. Hobby? I think not. It is the same as talking loudly in a public place and claiming it as a hobby. Those that use these modified mufflers need to understand that they have to be considerate of others, that they are not the only ones on the roads, that there are homes with sleeping babies nearby, that they cannot be driving around, especially at night, making noise, when there is also a ban on loud music at night.
Im into modding cars. I got a full stainless system on my car, custom backbox and its not that load, but loader then when it left the factory, which was quite restrictive. Main reason i done it, as its a turbo engine was to increase flow and performance. Not to be an arse and disturb the peace. I do agree to a certain point, some exhaust are silly, a big old can on a 1.3 nova is just plain stupid.
Loud Exhausts are not the issue! Its the owners of cars with loud exhausts that rev them up and rag there cars stupidly that is the issue. an aftermarket system can still be quite if the car is driven sensibly. I have been modifying and tuning cars for years and can say that all the aftermarket systems that we have fitted have been much quieter than many high performance street cars standard systems.
Ask yourself, what is really more annoying and detrimental to peace and quiet?
1) A car with a loud exhaust driving past and gone within minutes (or seconds!)
2) Kids screaming and shouting whilst playing in the street outside your house for hours at a time?
Clearly, it’s #2. However, nobody would complain about that. So why do people target drivers?
Live and let live. If you complain about car noise all day, maybe move to a cul-de-sac or better yet live out in the countryside where you will hear nothing but birds farting in the wind.
“Waaaa, I don’t like it so it should be banned!”
This is how you look.
i drive a van and i all so have a moddified porsche with a after market exhurst that is louder when you are driving fast but isnt when driving normal .there are lots of chaved up vauxhall corsas and car of that kind with huge over the top dog food can size exhursts that do sound total crap and are load at any speed thay should be stoped yes thay give us all a bad name