Remove Gypsies/Travellers’ Status As A Racial Group

The status of travellers as a racial group is undermining measures to tackle the illegal actitivites of (some) of the members of this group, whether it's breaches of planning law, trespassing, or other anti-social actititives where the authorities have to wear "kit gloves" to deal with them, because of their status under equalities law.

Travelling is a lfestyle choice, not a race, regardless of how many generations have been doing it.

Why is this idea important?

The status of travellers as a racial group is undermining measures to tackle the illegal actitivites of (some) of the members of this group, whether it's breaches of planning law, trespassing, or other anti-social actititives where the authorities have to wear "kit gloves" to deal with them, because of their status under equalities law.

Travelling is a lfestyle choice, not a race, regardless of how many generations have been doing it.

Stop Travellers abuse of Human Rights laws to block planning enforcement

I am appauled that recently there have been several cases where travellers have purchased some land, then moved onto it very quickly and without any planning permission. Setting up mobile homes and small villages, Yet councils are unable to act to remove them.

The loophole is they own the land and so are not trespassing, they have breached planning regulation but that is not seen as a serious crime, despite the wanton deliberate and mass intention to do so. They then use Civil Liberties and Human Rights laws as an excuse to remain living there, install drainage, build walls and shelters and even roads… all without legal permission. It may take years to chase them through the courts, plus appeals, wastes councils time and money and therefore costs us all money.

They must forfeit their rights on the grounds that they have deliberately, wantonly, en-mass and with planned deception and intention gone about becoming residential illegally on their land.

Due to the massively deliberate illegal natue of their actions they should  loose their rights and be immediately evicted from the sites, by force if necessary.

Why is this idea important?

I am appauled that recently there have been several cases where travellers have purchased some land, then moved onto it very quickly and without any planning permission. Setting up mobile homes and small villages, Yet councils are unable to act to remove them.

The loophole is they own the land and so are not trespassing, they have breached planning regulation but that is not seen as a serious crime, despite the wanton deliberate and mass intention to do so. They then use Civil Liberties and Human Rights laws as an excuse to remain living there, install drainage, build walls and shelters and even roads… all without legal permission. It may take years to chase them through the courts, plus appeals, wastes councils time and money and therefore costs us all money.

They must forfeit their rights on the grounds that they have deliberately, wantonly, en-mass and with planned deception and intention gone about becoming residential illegally on their land.

Due to the massively deliberate illegal natue of their actions they should  loose their rights and be immediately evicted from the sites, by force if necessary.

Land Invasion by travellers/gypsies

Over the last few years travellers and gypsies have moved onto land all over the country mainly during the summer months, a lot of them have homes in residential areas already but use the summer months as an excuse to get into a vehicle and tow a caravan to the nearest piece of land where they set up site with others of a similar nature and cause absolute havoc for land owners and residents.

They follow supposed horse fairs arond the country and on setting up sites getting to these places cause disruption to residents by moving onto any land that is unprotected and start to "work" in the area doing poor quality tree work and drive laying usually leaving the remenants of such work where they camp causing land owners and local authorites a lot of work and expence clearing the mess up.They also prey on vulnerable members of the community part completing odd jobs and normally shoddy and poor quality work.They drag their children around with them and quite quickly they are out of the education system.

These horse fairs should be banned  and the police should be given powers to remove them from any land instantly in company with the land owner instead of the police having to advise landowners of the civil action they have to take to get them off land which is costly and time consuming for all and usually these people get wind of what is going on and move just before any enforcement can be taken which can take weeks.

The Police feel powerless in these situations and landowners feel the police are not doing their jobs but they have no powers unless there are specific grounds and these people know how to avoid situations in order for the police to be powerless.

Lets have legislation made that gives the police the power to move these people on or face arrest and lets have these cruel horse fairs banned completely then there will be no excuse for them to travel the country causing the problems associated with them.

Why is this idea important?

Over the last few years travellers and gypsies have moved onto land all over the country mainly during the summer months, a lot of them have homes in residential areas already but use the summer months as an excuse to get into a vehicle and tow a caravan to the nearest piece of land where they set up site with others of a similar nature and cause absolute havoc for land owners and residents.

They follow supposed horse fairs arond the country and on setting up sites getting to these places cause disruption to residents by moving onto any land that is unprotected and start to "work" in the area doing poor quality tree work and drive laying usually leaving the remenants of such work where they camp causing land owners and local authorites a lot of work and expence clearing the mess up.They also prey on vulnerable members of the community part completing odd jobs and normally shoddy and poor quality work.They drag their children around with them and quite quickly they are out of the education system.

These horse fairs should be banned  and the police should be given powers to remove them from any land instantly in company with the land owner instead of the police having to advise landowners of the civil action they have to take to get them off land which is costly and time consuming for all and usually these people get wind of what is going on and move just before any enforcement can be taken which can take weeks.

The Police feel powerless in these situations and landowners feel the police are not doing their jobs but they have no powers unless there are specific grounds and these people know how to avoid situations in order for the police to be powerless.

Lets have legislation made that gives the police the power to move these people on or face arrest and lets have these cruel horse fairs banned completely then there will be no excuse for them to travel the country causing the problems associated with them.

End Discrimination against Gypsies and Travellers

 

In the last 50 years more and more laws have been passed limiting the lifestyle of traditional Gypsies and Travellers. Traditional stopping places have been barred to them. Councils that have provided enough land for housing, have not provided enough land for Gypsy and Traveller sites. Abusive language and actions that would lead to prosecutions if applied to other ethnic groups, go unpunished. Then some complain that a people who have been deprived of their traditional stopping places without replacement and have been denied the sites that are allocated for housing are stopping on the only places that they can find.

 

The last government introduced the following laws against Gypsies and Travellers  that ought to be repealed:

– Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 sections 62A-62E (added by the Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003 section 60);
– Temporary Stop Notices under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 sections 171E-H in so far as they apply to caravans and mobile homes – the law already excludes houses, so this is simply asking for equal treatment (added by the Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004 section 52)
– The extension of the power to refuse to determine repeat planning applications in sections 70A and 70B of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (introduced by the Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004 section 43).

 

I very much hope that the Coalition Government will work with the Gypsy and Traveller community to enable them to maintain their traditional lifestyle free of persecution and demonisation.

Why is this idea important?

 

In the last 50 years more and more laws have been passed limiting the lifestyle of traditional Gypsies and Travellers. Traditional stopping places have been barred to them. Councils that have provided enough land for housing, have not provided enough land for Gypsy and Traveller sites. Abusive language and actions that would lead to prosecutions if applied to other ethnic groups, go unpunished. Then some complain that a people who have been deprived of their traditional stopping places without replacement and have been denied the sites that are allocated for housing are stopping on the only places that they can find.

 

The last government introduced the following laws against Gypsies and Travellers  that ought to be repealed:

– Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 sections 62A-62E (added by the Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003 section 60);
– Temporary Stop Notices under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 sections 171E-H in so far as they apply to caravans and mobile homes – the law already excludes houses, so this is simply asking for equal treatment (added by the Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004 section 52)
– The extension of the power to refuse to determine repeat planning applications in sections 70A and 70B of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (introduced by the Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004 section 43).

 

I very much hope that the Coalition Government will work with the Gypsy and Traveller community to enable them to maintain their traditional lifestyle free of persecution and demonisation.

Remove the requirement on councils to provide traveller sites

Removing the legal requirement of councils to provide traveller sites will provide many advantages to the areas where these sites are proposed or exist. These sites are NEVER wanted by the local residents, they are no-go areas for police, they are hotbeds of crime and cost a fortune to maintain. All existing sites should be either closed with appropriate notice or offered to the private sector to run.

Where travellers decamp to private or public land such as playing fields, the owner of the land may serve written notice to vacate within 6 hours and if this does not happen then he should have the right to impound any caravans until a suitable release fee is paid. To prevent the occasions were a vehicle has been placed on private land because of breakdown or similar, this should only be applied to the caravan itself or to where 2 or more vehicles and caravans are camped.

Why is this idea important?

Removing the legal requirement of councils to provide traveller sites will provide many advantages to the areas where these sites are proposed or exist. These sites are NEVER wanted by the local residents, they are no-go areas for police, they are hotbeds of crime and cost a fortune to maintain. All existing sites should be either closed with appropriate notice or offered to the private sector to run.

Where travellers decamp to private or public land such as playing fields, the owner of the land may serve written notice to vacate within 6 hours and if this does not happen then he should have the right to impound any caravans until a suitable release fee is paid. To prevent the occasions were a vehicle has been placed on private land because of breakdown or similar, this should only be applied to the caravan itself or to where 2 or more vehicles and caravans are camped.

Gypsy rights.

The law compelling Councils to set up 'traveller' sites is impinging on the general publics rights. These so called travellers get away with breaking and entering, criminal damage, dumping litter, trespass on public and private land. They move on to car parks yet never pay a fee and never get fined.

They disrupt the life of law abiding citizens by preventing access to public property and they should be prosecuted like any person other than them would be.

Why is this idea important?

The law compelling Councils to set up 'traveller' sites is impinging on the general publics rights. These so called travellers get away with breaking and entering, criminal damage, dumping litter, trespass on public and private land. They move on to car parks yet never pay a fee and never get fined.

They disrupt the life of law abiding citizens by preventing access to public property and they should be prosecuted like any person other than them would be.