Citizens Locked up Abroad Access to Legal Aid from Home

My name is Lesley Pumfrey I have nine children and four grandchildren. I am 44 years old. I live in my own home in Eastbourne East Sussex and I am a senior medical secretary in the Urology 
Department at Eastbourne EDGH. I am married to Karl and we have been together for seventeen years. All have brought all of my kids up to respect their elders and the laws of our country. Unfortunately one of my daughters has had a hard life. From her father rejecting her to then being horrendously bullied all through school when we live on the Romney Marsh Kent with no protection from head of that school as he would not accept he had a school run by bullies. I campaigned to change things nothing was done. She then got herself pregnant in 2005 and she was not able to look after herself let alone a baby so she went for a termination. In the November that year on thinking she got pregnant again we found the termination failed and she consequently had a little girl Casey. We put her in a mother and baby unit run by a charity which then became a nightmare for us all when one of the staff took disliking to her and accused her of all sorts (proved most of things they said were wrong) she ended up with Casey on at risk register. By this time Nicola had given up it seemed what ever she did it was always a negative feedback to slap her down and so I ended up with Casey coming to live with me in January 2009.  She then went off the rails drinking alot and not having anywhere to live. She moved in with a friend in Newhaven. Her friend then got a new boyfriend and in the April of that year I found out her friends boyfriend had been beating her and making her prostitute and even kidnapped her from Brighton and took her to Beachyhead and threatened to throw her off if she did not do what he wanted. Her friends mum had called my dad and then me to tell me she had been to the police because he was grooming young girls and my daughter to prostitute for him and also to do a drug runs for his mates in London (there is lots more too this but have no room for all). I had called the police and my dad did too and they said even though what she was doing was illegal they could not help us unless she made a complaint. We got her home in the May June 2009 and she denied it all to us. Well in the Sept Oct she seemed to settle down and moved back into my mums got a job and the court case (sued the consultant who failed her) and she was suing for 24.000 and seemed to be getting herself sorted. She even went to the police and told them all about what this guy had done to her and that she was scarred as he was making threats against my mother and my granddaughter. She did not want anything done to him she wanted to let them know just in case anything happened to her(my dad was taken seriously ill and died on the 16th of October) I also had a health scare and had to have a bone marrow biopsy. Then on the 20th of November she disappeared. We reported her missing on the Saturday 21st to Sussex Police We told them about everything we knew. She had been communicating with one of her friends and she knew what was going on but kept lieing about everything. We found out she was in Brazil Soa Paulo. I put on her facebook so they could see and told her she could not think of bringing any drugs back as the police know everything and they will be questioning her when she got into the country. I also called her and told her this on the phone. She was denying it and said she was on holiday and a girl had given her a ticket as she could not go due to uni starting. We found out what hotel she was in and a police officer called it and confirmed she was there and leaving on 25th. She was on facebook alot and tried to get her to go to consulate (we knew she had someone with her as when we talked via facebook her responses were not what she would say. She then suddenly disapearred off of facebook and no-one heard anything from her for about a week. The police found out she had tried to book a flight with a card which had no money on. I kept texting even pleading to whoever had her to let her come home and we would pay them the money back somehow. This would be provable by phone company and looking on messages on facebook. I was told by a policeman a week before her arrest that agencies were talking to each other in the background and even though it looked like they were doing nothing to help get her home they were actively trying to help. He also did though say was she telling the truth about it all and I told him she had no money not a penny and we know for sure that what was being said was the truth. Then at 1.00 am on the 21st of December my mum called me in a state to say she had been arrested at Soa Paulo airport for having drugs in her bag. I called the police and told them she had been arrested and they took the message and I heard nothing from them. I contacted the consulate and when I did I asked had they been contacted regarding my daughter going missing and the only time they contacted them was when I had that day. It was obvious that the Brazilian Police had not been told what had happened to her as nothing had been said. No one at anytime from Sussex Police phoned to offer any kind of sympathy or help. So I wrote and demanded in writing all that they had done to find her but was refused on some clause to the freedom of information act. The only thing they said is that they would speak to her legal defence if they contacted them and to let them know we believed she did it under duress. I sent this letter to her. We do not have the funds for private lawyer so she has to have  public one. I am finding out this is the worst defence lawyers you can have as 98% of people who have one get sent down. All that happened to her before she went is needed for her defence and I am told that he has not turned up to see her. My daughter had no clothing and is stuck in a hell hole and no one wants to help. I think we should in these cases provide a defence lawyer our own legal aid for our citizens. Not all cases are cut and dried and at least they deserve a decent defence and more watching how they are being treated as I do not think the consulate is very helpful at all. Foreigners get more legal help here than they would in their own country. We should help the poorer person abroad and our citizens especially in a country like Brazil. We all know that human rights is the last thing they think about and the insanitary conditions over there. Bring them home to serve sentences.  I have a little girl now who has lost her mum for good as I don't think my daughter is going to come back to us. She is not strong and she is a victim in this. The police have let my family down and now I dont know what to say to my kids as I have said if you are in trouble go to the police but how can I justify that when our own law cannot prevent things like this when they have been told that there is a gang in London praying on young vulnerable girls and sending them over to bring their drugs back and there is nothing they will do to stop this. There needs to be a campaign to put posters in airports to show the devastation it has when a loved one is used like this and ends up in Hell miles from friends and family and civilisation.  My daughter could be being abused, rapped, tortured and there is no one to help. Has she not suffered enough. I just want to add that my daughter had her passport photocopied and was frightened as the person they sent was linked to the gang who put her there as he asked to take her case on (he asked for her by name).

Why is this idea important?

My name is Lesley Pumfrey I have nine children and four grandchildren. I am 44 years old. I live in my own home in Eastbourne East Sussex and I am a senior medical secretary in the Urology 
Department at Eastbourne EDGH. I am married to Karl and we have been together for seventeen years. All have brought all of my kids up to respect their elders and the laws of our country. Unfortunately one of my daughters has had a hard life. From her father rejecting her to then being horrendously bullied all through school when we live on the Romney Marsh Kent with no protection from head of that school as he would not accept he had a school run by bullies. I campaigned to change things nothing was done. She then got herself pregnant in 2005 and she was not able to look after herself let alone a baby so she went for a termination. In the November that year on thinking she got pregnant again we found the termination failed and she consequently had a little girl Casey. We put her in a mother and baby unit run by a charity which then became a nightmare for us all when one of the staff took disliking to her and accused her of all sorts (proved most of things they said were wrong) she ended up with Casey on at risk register. By this time Nicola had given up it seemed what ever she did it was always a negative feedback to slap her down and so I ended up with Casey coming to live with me in January 2009.  She then went off the rails drinking alot and not having anywhere to live. She moved in with a friend in Newhaven. Her friend then got a new boyfriend and in the April of that year I found out her friends boyfriend had been beating her and making her prostitute and even kidnapped her from Brighton and took her to Beachyhead and threatened to throw her off if she did not do what he wanted. Her friends mum had called my dad and then me to tell me she had been to the police because he was grooming young girls and my daughter to prostitute for him and also to do a drug runs for his mates in London (there is lots more too this but have no room for all). I had called the police and my dad did too and they said even though what she was doing was illegal they could not help us unless she made a complaint. We got her home in the May June 2009 and she denied it all to us. Well in the Sept Oct she seemed to settle down and moved back into my mums got a job and the court case (sued the consultant who failed her) and she was suing for 24.000 and seemed to be getting herself sorted. She even went to the police and told them all about what this guy had done to her and that she was scarred as he was making threats against my mother and my granddaughter. She did not want anything done to him she wanted to let them know just in case anything happened to her(my dad was taken seriously ill and died on the 16th of October) I also had a health scare and had to have a bone marrow biopsy. Then on the 20th of November she disappeared. We reported her missing on the Saturday 21st to Sussex Police We told them about everything we knew. She had been communicating with one of her friends and she knew what was going on but kept lieing about everything. We found out she was in Brazil Soa Paulo. I put on her facebook so they could see and told her she could not think of bringing any drugs back as the police know everything and they will be questioning her when she got into the country. I also called her and told her this on the phone. She was denying it and said she was on holiday and a girl had given her a ticket as she could not go due to uni starting. We found out what hotel she was in and a police officer called it and confirmed she was there and leaving on 25th. She was on facebook alot and tried to get her to go to consulate (we knew she had someone with her as when we talked via facebook her responses were not what she would say. She then suddenly disapearred off of facebook and no-one heard anything from her for about a week. The police found out she had tried to book a flight with a card which had no money on. I kept texting even pleading to whoever had her to let her come home and we would pay them the money back somehow. This would be provable by phone company and looking on messages on facebook. I was told by a policeman a week before her arrest that agencies were talking to each other in the background and even though it looked like they were doing nothing to help get her home they were actively trying to help. He also did though say was she telling the truth about it all and I told him she had no money not a penny and we know for sure that what was being said was the truth. Then at 1.00 am on the 21st of December my mum called me in a state to say she had been arrested at Soa Paulo airport for having drugs in her bag. I called the police and told them she had been arrested and they took the message and I heard nothing from them. I contacted the consulate and when I did I asked had they been contacted regarding my daughter going missing and the only time they contacted them was when I had that day. It was obvious that the Brazilian Police had not been told what had happened to her as nothing had been said. No one at anytime from Sussex Police phoned to offer any kind of sympathy or help. So I wrote and demanded in writing all that they had done to find her but was refused on some clause to the freedom of information act. The only thing they said is that they would speak to her legal defence if they contacted them and to let them know we believed she did it under duress. I sent this letter to her. We do not have the funds for private lawyer so she has to have  public one. I am finding out this is the worst defence lawyers you can have as 98% of people who have one get sent down. All that happened to her before she went is needed for her defence and I am told that he has not turned up to see her. My daughter had no clothing and is stuck in a hell hole and no one wants to help. I think we should in these cases provide a defence lawyer our own legal aid for our citizens. Not all cases are cut and dried and at least they deserve a decent defence and more watching how they are being treated as I do not think the consulate is very helpful at all. Foreigners get more legal help here than they would in their own country. We should help the poorer person abroad and our citizens especially in a country like Brazil. We all know that human rights is the last thing they think about and the insanitary conditions over there. Bring them home to serve sentences.  I have a little girl now who has lost her mum for good as I don't think my daughter is going to come back to us. She is not strong and she is a victim in this. The police have let my family down and now I dont know what to say to my kids as I have said if you are in trouble go to the police but how can I justify that when our own law cannot prevent things like this when they have been told that there is a gang in London praying on young vulnerable girls and sending them over to bring their drugs back and there is nothing they will do to stop this. There needs to be a campaign to put posters in airports to show the devastation it has when a loved one is used like this and ends up in Hell miles from friends and family and civilisation.  My daughter could be being abused, rapped, tortured and there is no one to help. Has she not suffered enough. I just want to add that my daughter had her passport photocopied and was frightened as the person they sent was linked to the gang who put her there as he asked to take her case on (he asked for her by name).

Pay Same Pension Wherever People Live

If a pensioner lives in the European Union their pension rises with inflation, exactly the same as if they live in the UK. But if they live in almost anywhere else their pension is frozen.

Why? It's exactly the same person and they have built up the same contributions and paid the same tax over heir working life.

The real reason is because pensions are not part of an insurance scheme at all, but a way of keeping the elderly off Government's back. Better a pension than a means tested benefit they think. Not so, pensioners have paid National Insurance and Tax all their lives and a pension is an earned entitlement, not Charity.

If someone wants to retire to Martinique or Florida or Egypt why shouldn't they? Of course no-one should be complled to do so, but for many people it is their dream. Don't cut their pension in real terms by 2-3% each year.

And there are financial benefits – in many countries they can get Care for less than in the UK, and certainly without the carer and family having to emigrate to the UK, so it is Win-Win for pensioners and taxpayers.

Why is this idea important?

If a pensioner lives in the European Union their pension rises with inflation, exactly the same as if they live in the UK. But if they live in almost anywhere else their pension is frozen.

Why? It's exactly the same person and they have built up the same contributions and paid the same tax over heir working life.

The real reason is because pensions are not part of an insurance scheme at all, but a way of keeping the elderly off Government's back. Better a pension than a means tested benefit they think. Not so, pensioners have paid National Insurance and Tax all their lives and a pension is an earned entitlement, not Charity.

If someone wants to retire to Martinique or Florida or Egypt why shouldn't they? Of course no-one should be complled to do so, but for many people it is their dream. Don't cut their pension in real terms by 2-3% each year.

And there are financial benefits – in many countries they can get Care for less than in the UK, and certainly without the carer and family having to emigrate to the UK, so it is Win-Win for pensioners and taxpayers.

“The Freezing of State Pensions for some pensioners living outside the EU”

I ask that the current government ministers look at this situation again.  Further they should begin their deliberations with a 'clean sheet', ignoring completely the rather spurious arguments against us which were used in the past.

Ethel and Brian Green..QLD..Australia

Why is this idea important?

I ask that the current government ministers look at this situation again.  Further they should begin their deliberations with a 'clean sheet', ignoring completely the rather spurious arguments against us which were used in the past.

Ethel and Brian Green..QLD..Australia

Frozen pensions for those living abroad.

I absolutely echo Morgeo`s comment. The House of Lords, the European Court for Human Rights and the British Politicians, of whatever persuasion, have politicised this and forgotten the basic facts that those of us living in retirement in Australia (and other countries) are discriminated against by having our pensions frozen at the rate on the day we moved (overseas).

We were not informed of this `policy` – just left to find out about it.

How can it ever be just to pay index-linked pensions to those living in most overseas countries and not in a few others…?

When will the politicians understand that it will be less costly (for them) to pay us our rightfully due index-linked pensions than it is for non-payment!

This anacronism must be removed.

I have written to Mr Cameron about it – as yet no reply!

Astley22.

Why is this idea important?

I absolutely echo Morgeo`s comment. The House of Lords, the European Court for Human Rights and the British Politicians, of whatever persuasion, have politicised this and forgotten the basic facts that those of us living in retirement in Australia (and other countries) are discriminated against by having our pensions frozen at the rate on the day we moved (overseas).

We were not informed of this `policy` – just left to find out about it.

How can it ever be just to pay index-linked pensions to those living in most overseas countries and not in a few others…?

When will the politicians understand that it will be less costly (for them) to pay us our rightfully due index-linked pensions than it is for non-payment!

This anacronism must be removed.

I have written to Mr Cameron about it – as yet no reply!

Astley22.

Allow British citizens living abroad to enter into Muslim marriages

Allow British citizens living abroad to enter into Muslim marriages without restriction

In order to get married in Egypt you have to have a statement of no objection from your Embassy, basically stating you are free to marry. However the Embassy also insist that your partner is free to marry under British law. In Egypt the Ministry of Justice will not marry a British citizen without this paperwork. This means that a British Muslim woman wishing to marry an Egyptian Muslim man who is already married cannot do so.  Even though this is legal in Egypt and allowed under Islam. I think the law should replaced with one that says you only have to obey the British laws if you want your marriage to be registered in the UK.

Why is this idea important?

Allow British citizens living abroad to enter into Muslim marriages without restriction

In order to get married in Egypt you have to have a statement of no objection from your Embassy, basically stating you are free to marry. However the Embassy also insist that your partner is free to marry under British law. In Egypt the Ministry of Justice will not marry a British citizen without this paperwork. This means that a British Muslim woman wishing to marry an Egyptian Muslim man who is already married cannot do so.  Even though this is legal in Egypt and allowed under Islam. I think the law should replaced with one that says you only have to obey the British laws if you want your marriage to be registered in the UK.

Benefits paid out abroad

Stop allowing benefits to be paid to people that are not even living in this country.

Example:

"This week, ministers admitted that more than £1million a month in child benefit is going to the families of youngsters who live in the former Soviet bloc countries. It was the first time that Labour has acknowledged that the money – funded by British taxpayers – is being paid abroad. The revelation triggered a political controversy over the fact that the Government is paying for the upbringing of children who do not live in Britain and who may never even have set foot in the country. It also underlines how our generous benefits system acts as a powerful draw for migrant workers. Moreover, this largesse is open to widespread abuse. The Trajkowski family qualify for child benefit because their father works in London as a builder and pays his taxes. Like all migrants from the eight East European countries which joined the EU in 2004, he won the right to claim state benefits after working here for a year."

Complete article can be found – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483225/1m-child-benefit-paid-month–mothers-Poland.html

Why is this idea important?

Stop allowing benefits to be paid to people that are not even living in this country.

Example:

"This week, ministers admitted that more than £1million a month in child benefit is going to the families of youngsters who live in the former Soviet bloc countries. It was the first time that Labour has acknowledged that the money – funded by British taxpayers – is being paid abroad. The revelation triggered a political controversy over the fact that the Government is paying for the upbringing of children who do not live in Britain and who may never even have set foot in the country. It also underlines how our generous benefits system acts as a powerful draw for migrant workers. Moreover, this largesse is open to widespread abuse. The Trajkowski family qualify for child benefit because their father works in London as a builder and pays his taxes. Like all migrants from the eight East European countries which joined the EU in 2004, he won the right to claim state benefits after working here for a year."

Complete article can be found – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483225/1m-child-benefit-paid-month–mothers-Poland.html

STOP MARRIAGES FROM ABROAD

I personally think you should stop allowing people to get married from abroad, the men from there abuse us girls and take advantage of us. All they come for to the UK is money. They dont think about us or they children. Many of the british citizens get married abroad and when the spouses come here they get indefinite stay or British passports and divorce them.  I think you should totally stop it or do the minimum age to 25. If people are not happy they can go back to they countries and stay there forever.

Why is this idea important?

I personally think you should stop allowing people to get married from abroad, the men from there abuse us girls and take advantage of us. All they come for to the UK is money. They dont think about us or they children. Many of the british citizens get married abroad and when the spouses come here they get indefinite stay or British passports and divorce them.  I think you should totally stop it or do the minimum age to 25. If people are not happy they can go back to they countries and stay there forever.