DAB Radio and Digital Economy Act

I understand that this act includes for the provision of switching off analogue radio and it's replacement with DAB (digital). This is just plain bonkers for the reasons below.

DAB is a poor performer and is already, in effect,  the betamax of digital radio, greedy for bandwidth and incapable of providing the hi fi sound currently available from a properly set up FM tuner. It is no accident that there are very few hi fi DAB tuners on the market capable of integrating into a  hi fi stack. There are other, much better, standards for digital radio in Europe (DAB+ et al) which utilise much better compression algorithms than does DAB

Advertising for DAB has always been misleading, starting with the statements that it provided CD quality sound. It doesn't by a large margin. Also, it is depressing in the extreme to see the current advertising campaign to persuade us to hand in analogue for DAB with the dubious stated aim of refurbishing the older stuff with a view to its redistribution to Africa etc. The problems with this approach are listed below and the effect is that radios handed in will surely finish up being scrapped rather than recycled.

  • Long wave is little used outside parts of Europe
  • Medium Wave is effectively unusable in large parts of Africa because of high static levels which is why they make much use of the tropical band frequencies. Tropical band is beyond the capability of most radios currently in use in the UK.
  • VHF is line of sight and therefore of little use in mountainous regions of the world.
  • The Baylis wind up radio was designed for third world conditions. All of the radios that will be handed in require either mains or battery power which is hardly appropriate for their intended use.
  • Will all the car radios that will be rendered useless also be sent to Africa?

DAB radios are very power hungry when compared to the current crop of radios. In the current climate do we really need to be swapping low power requirement for high?

It is not clear where the demand for this proposal comes from unless it is to sell off part of the radio spectrum. However, even this seems unlikely as the proposal would be for the freed up FM spectrum to be used by more local radio – dreadful thought.

To summarise, this seems to have been thought up by someone who doesn't really understand the issues at stake, to solve a need that isn't there or resolve a problem that doesn't exist. It seems to have been rushed through in the same way as the other main aspects of the act and the whole lot should be ditched and rethought.

Why is this idea important?

I understand that this act includes for the provision of switching off analogue radio and it's replacement with DAB (digital). This is just plain bonkers for the reasons below.

DAB is a poor performer and is already, in effect,  the betamax of digital radio, greedy for bandwidth and incapable of providing the hi fi sound currently available from a properly set up FM tuner. It is no accident that there are very few hi fi DAB tuners on the market capable of integrating into a  hi fi stack. There are other, much better, standards for digital radio in Europe (DAB+ et al) which utilise much better compression algorithms than does DAB

Advertising for DAB has always been misleading, starting with the statements that it provided CD quality sound. It doesn't by a large margin. Also, it is depressing in the extreme to see the current advertising campaign to persuade us to hand in analogue for DAB with the dubious stated aim of refurbishing the older stuff with a view to its redistribution to Africa etc. The problems with this approach are listed below and the effect is that radios handed in will surely finish up being scrapped rather than recycled.

  • Long wave is little used outside parts of Europe
  • Medium Wave is effectively unusable in large parts of Africa because of high static levels which is why they make much use of the tropical band frequencies. Tropical band is beyond the capability of most radios currently in use in the UK.
  • VHF is line of sight and therefore of little use in mountainous regions of the world.
  • The Baylis wind up radio was designed for third world conditions. All of the radios that will be handed in require either mains or battery power which is hardly appropriate for their intended use.
  • Will all the car radios that will be rendered useless also be sent to Africa?

DAB radios are very power hungry when compared to the current crop of radios. In the current climate do we really need to be swapping low power requirement for high?

It is not clear where the demand for this proposal comes from unless it is to sell off part of the radio spectrum. However, even this seems unlikely as the proposal would be for the freed up FM spectrum to be used by more local radio – dreadful thought.

To summarise, this seems to have been thought up by someone who doesn't really understand the issues at stake, to solve a need that isn't there or resolve a problem that doesn't exist. It seems to have been rushed through in the same way as the other main aspects of the act and the whole lot should be ditched and rethought.

Keep FM radio

No compulsory switch-off of FM transmissions to compel us to change to digital, making our many FM receivers useless. 

Digital uses much more power, and incurs considerable capital costs [sets are much dearer], with no way of recyling the old radios.   Will not be able to go from one room to another set with continuity of programme.  Music will be less faithfully reproduced.

 Also, the Time Signal will be wrong!

Why is this idea important?

No compulsory switch-off of FM transmissions to compel us to change to digital, making our many FM receivers useless. 

Digital uses much more power, and incurs considerable capital costs [sets are much dearer], with no way of recyling the old radios.   Will not be able to go from one room to another set with continuity of programme.  Music will be less faithfully reproduced.

 Also, the Time Signal will be wrong!

Why switch off DAB?

DAB is more inefficient in terms of the power required to power the radio

DAB does not have full coverage of the country

DAB is not currently standard kit within the vast majority of cars

 

Why are you insisting on fixing something that isn't broken? Keep FM and can DAB, which is an inferior digital product that I can't get, so I will just lose my radio signals in 2015.

 

Bloody ridiculous…haven't you got better things to be doing rather than forcing peiople to spend unecessary hundreds of pounds on radios?

Why is this idea important?

DAB is more inefficient in terms of the power required to power the radio

DAB does not have full coverage of the country

DAB is not currently standard kit within the vast majority of cars

 

Why are you insisting on fixing something that isn't broken? Keep FM and can DAB, which is an inferior digital product that I can't get, so I will just lose my radio signals in 2015.

 

Bloody ridiculous…haven't you got better things to be doing rather than forcing peiople to spend unecessary hundreds of pounds on radios?

With immediate effect block the digitalization of broadcast radio.

Stop the move to digital radio. Leave AM/FM as is the reasoning behind this is that many will not get DAB and it is not suitable on the move. Further the labour jump into DAB is seriously flawed as the system has many faults not least of which is the fact that the rest of Europe has not and will not be adopting it making aforesaid special for UK radios very expensive.

Why is this idea important?

Stop the move to digital radio. Leave AM/FM as is the reasoning behind this is that many will not get DAB and it is not suitable on the move. Further the labour jump into DAB is seriously flawed as the system has many faults not least of which is the fact that the rest of Europe has not and will not be adopting it making aforesaid special for UK radios very expensive.

Scrapping of FM frequencies.

Stop this insane push to scrap broadcasting national radio on the FM frequencies.  DAB radio is far from perfect, and will ultimately be replaced by DAB2. The reasons given for going over to DAB broadcasting are political and don't stand up to scrutiny.

Why is this idea important?

Stop this insane push to scrap broadcasting national radio on the FM frequencies.  DAB radio is far from perfect, and will ultimately be replaced by DAB2. The reasons given for going over to DAB broadcasting are political and don't stand up to scrutiny.

DAB Radio

The turning off of theFM broadcasting is quite wrong.  There are millions of radios that would be effected and it is quite wrong that this is being imposed on the public.  By all means run both in tandum but do not turn off the signal – I can't imagine any contry in Europe planning to go down this road!!!

Why is this idea important?

The turning off of theFM broadcasting is quite wrong.  There are millions of radios that would be effected and it is quite wrong that this is being imposed on the public.  By all means run both in tandum but do not turn off the signal – I can't imagine any contry in Europe planning to go down this road!!!

Digital radio

I have spent thousands of pounds on FM radio equipment which will be made useless by the Bill sneaked in at the end of the last Parliament.

Repeal the legislation at the first opportunity.

Why is this idea important?

I have spent thousands of pounds on FM radio equipment which will be made useless by the Bill sneaked in at the end of the last Parliament.

Repeal the legislation at the first opportunity.

repeal digital radio switchover requirement

This doesn't quite fit any of your categories, so I'll put it here for somewhere to put it.

The switchover to digital radio is a waste of time, money, effort and carbon emissions.

Digital radio uses significantly more electricity than FM, so the switchover will increase carbon emissions permanently just when we're trying to reduce them.

The quality of broadcast is inferior, particularly affecting all music stations.

Most households have multiple radios (I have 8, excluding the car) and the cost of replacing them all will be prohibitive. Additionally, the manufacture and purchase of all these extra radios will waste resources and increase one-off carbon emissions.

Old radios, we are told, will receive the new stations and so not be 'redundant' – but I want to listen to the stations I choose, not some mythical new ones. I want BBC Radios 3 and 4 to continue on FM!

Changing radios in cars will be difficult and very expensive.

Does anyone really want all the extra radio stations we're supposed to get?

Who is supposed to benefit from this switchover?

This is a wasteful, unnecessary, expensive nonsense – please drop it forthwith.

Why is this idea important?

This doesn't quite fit any of your categories, so I'll put it here for somewhere to put it.

The switchover to digital radio is a waste of time, money, effort and carbon emissions.

Digital radio uses significantly more electricity than FM, so the switchover will increase carbon emissions permanently just when we're trying to reduce them.

The quality of broadcast is inferior, particularly affecting all music stations.

Most households have multiple radios (I have 8, excluding the car) and the cost of replacing them all will be prohibitive. Additionally, the manufacture and purchase of all these extra radios will waste resources and increase one-off carbon emissions.

Old radios, we are told, will receive the new stations and so not be 'redundant' – but I want to listen to the stations I choose, not some mythical new ones. I want BBC Radios 3 and 4 to continue on FM!

Changing radios in cars will be difficult and very expensive.

Does anyone really want all the extra radio stations we're supposed to get?

Who is supposed to benefit from this switchover?

This is a wasteful, unnecessary, expensive nonsense – please drop it forthwith.

Rescind the discontinuance of FM/AM radio

By discontinuing AM and FM radio transmission, the Government is committing the UK to several billion in unnecessary expenditure. 

My four radios will cost over £500 to replace with digital radios and equivalent facilities.  If that is repeated across 15 million households the cost to the country would be at least £7 billion.  A digital car radio will cost at least £300.  There are 20 million vehicles in the UK so the cost to replace all those radios could be in excess of £6 billion.

The total cost to the economy will be at least £10 billion and probably nearer £15 billion.  And the reason cited is that it will free up more channels.  If this is likely and is needed by the emergency services, then it makes more sense to
  a] reduce the number of broadcasters,
  b] rationalise the frequencies and
  c] dedicate more sections of the bandwidth to emergency services
rather than committing the UK to wasting billions on not-very-good "new" facilities.

There is no need for several hundred [or thousand?] broadcasters of pop music.  This is just an ego-trip for most DJs and wastefully crowds the airwaves with the same or very similar material.

Furthermore, most digital users seem to think their new radios give no better service than FM and the coverage in remote areas of the country is reputedly rubbish!  Just because digital is the in-thing and is new doesn't make it a priori better.

Please reverse the decision.

Ray7033

Why is this idea important?

By discontinuing AM and FM radio transmission, the Government is committing the UK to several billion in unnecessary expenditure. 

My four radios will cost over £500 to replace with digital radios and equivalent facilities.  If that is repeated across 15 million households the cost to the country would be at least £7 billion.  A digital car radio will cost at least £300.  There are 20 million vehicles in the UK so the cost to replace all those radios could be in excess of £6 billion.

The total cost to the economy will be at least £10 billion and probably nearer £15 billion.  And the reason cited is that it will free up more channels.  If this is likely and is needed by the emergency services, then it makes more sense to
  a] reduce the number of broadcasters,
  b] rationalise the frequencies and
  c] dedicate more sections of the bandwidth to emergency services
rather than committing the UK to wasting billions on not-very-good "new" facilities.

There is no need for several hundred [or thousand?] broadcasters of pop music.  This is just an ego-trip for most DJs and wastefully crowds the airwaves with the same or very similar material.

Furthermore, most digital users seem to think their new radios give no better service than FM and the coverage in remote areas of the country is reputedly rubbish!  Just because digital is the in-thing and is new doesn't make it a priori better.

Please reverse the decision.

Ray7033

Reverse metrication

  • Remove requirement to state metric units when selling items domestically. Items for international sale should state both.
  • Phase back in use of Imperial units, both for selling items, and in education
  • Pardon all convictions for 'metric martyrs'

Why is this idea important?

  • Remove requirement to state metric units when selling items domestically. Items for international sale should state both.
  • Phase back in use of Imperial units, both for selling items, and in education
  • Pardon all convictions for 'metric martyrs'

Reverse the Decision to Scrap Analogue Radios

In its move to establish DAB as the sole platform for UK radio, the government has set the target of 2015 as the preferred date to swith off the analogue signal, thus rendering millions of analogue radios unusable in the UK. This decision, and the objective of switching off the analogue signal should be dropped.

Why is this idea important?

In its move to establish DAB as the sole platform for UK radio, the government has set the target of 2015 as the preferred date to swith off the analogue signal, thus rendering millions of analogue radios unusable in the UK. This decision, and the objective of switching off the analogue signal should be dropped.